DesirousOfChange

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  Next change?

  by JW_Rogue in

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  so, first the turning in time got axed, now beards are okay, what is up next?

  women wearing dress slacks to the meeting?

  birthdays becoming acceptable?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I do not see any further watering down of the Blood Doctrine. It is already at the point that if a person agrees to a transfusion in a life threatening situation (weakness) all they must do is say "I'm sinned and I'm sorry." and does not become a matter for a judicial committee. And if a person will not do that, then they are considered as someone who no longer desires to be considered one of Jehovah's Witnesses (DAd). Only speaking against the doctrine (apostacy) will get you DF.

  They do not want any claims of violating human rights.
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  JWLITE

  by Teddnzo in

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  even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

  they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

  i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

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  DesirousOfChange

  No more shunning, birthdays are a borderline just call them happy days ~ Jehovaxx

  They just had a WT article about using a birthday event to "witness" about why they do not celebrate them. Still, I think a lot of R&F do exactly what you suggest -- kinda "don't ask, don't tell".

  But on shunning I see no softening EXCEPT in their public statements. The policy of shunning is causing them a lot of grief in many countries, so they are trying to "have it both ways". In public they proclaim that they do NOT shun, but in reality we all know "the truth" of the matter. Many in a very personal way. WT is going to try to spin it as a "personal decision" of each member. They no longer want to be seen as instigating or promoting or even requiring any family member to be shunned. It's Bad Publicity for them, and more and more often causing legal issues.
  
  
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  The elders came calling. 😹

  by MissDaSilva in

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  this afternoon just after lunch.

  i spotted 2 of the nicer elders in the congregation walking up the drive.

  i didn’t answer the door.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I don’t know weather I take their lack of interest as an insult, or as a blessing, as I allowed me to slip out the back door with pretty much no effort. ~ Joe

  That has pretty much been our experience too. OH! I feel the love! haha It's kind of amazing how quickly they will kick you under the bus.

  MissDaSilva -- I agree with Joe that it has proven advantageous to have avoided any formal expulsion as opposed to have simply faded into the "stumbled and inactive" status.
  
  
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  Broadcasts, Are they just a distraction?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the recent broad casts about not handing in time sheets, and then about beards, especially the beards, it seems so trivial, are those talks only released in order to distract the followers from the recent court case they lost on spain, from the csa cases, the kh sales and so on?.

  i reckon they're taking their lead from the media, distract and divide tactics..

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  DesirousOfChange

  The broadcasts are the basis for WT's "expansion" and their need for more and more contributions. Remember, the need for new Kingdumb Halls is seldom mentioned, but there is that BIG construction operation to build studios for their "video business".

  GOD NEED$ YOUR MONEY!
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  A BEARD PREDICTION FOR 2024

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  fyi, i posted this prediction on my facebook page last night and it has received 224 likes and there have been 83 comments made.

  many of the comments are hilarious.. .

  a beard prediction for 2024:.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Some sisters decide to stop shaving legs, underarms, etc.
  

  Change that "some" to "VERY FEW".

  Sexual objectification is still very much alive in our society, and JWs are not exempt.

  Take note of most couples as they go "out on the town". The lady is "dressed to the nines". Hot little black dress with lots of cleavage and lots of leg with CFM heels. She's accompanied by a guy who is wearing his Sunday best pair of designer jeans and (wow) a long sleeve shirt with a collar and with sleeves rolled up once and either a nice pair of boots or very pricey sneakers.
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  spirit directed organization

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  i was watching a video about wt and money and the "brother" refers to the "spirit directed organization.

  " he also says they use donations wisely and modestly.

  are the gb so deluded and therefore their followers?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Call me gullible, but at one time I really believed that JW's were "spirit directed". I really believed that the Holy Spirit "moved" BOE or, for that matter, any official gathering of brothers to "miraculously" come to the same correct "spirit directed" conclusion (I know it's effing stupid to even write this out now).

  I prayed for guidance. I thought everyone did. And, I thought as a collective body, we got it.

  Now I know people see what they want to see. Just as I did. I wanted to believe that. So I did. In reality, there is no voodoo magic to it. At best, just a bunch of guys trying to do the right things. And often you do not even get that.

  Then I took the RED PILL.

  
  
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  Hello

  by cantleave in

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  2. friends

  i popped in to read about the beard u-turn, so thought i'd say hello to anyone who remembers me.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Congrats! Sounds like you have moved on to being an EX ex-JW!

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
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  Kingdom Hall Alarm codes.

  by JEMIMAH in

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  2. friends

  just back from renovating my holiday home in the south west of france.

  beats yorkshire anyday.... anyway thought i would share this little account with you.. as most are of you are aware, the alarm code for about 90% of kingdom halls is 1914 (nineteen fourteen).. i t seems though that for the last 8 or 9 quick builds or refurbs in the uk, the brother who installed the numbers into the alarm control panel used the numbers 1975 and explained the number as one nine seven five not the the easier version (ninteen seventy five).. trivial joke or honest mistake, either way this poor brother has been rumbled and has to to meet with 2 elders investigating on behalf of a body of elders to see whether an apostasy charge will be brought.. he is supposed to be meeting with them over the next few days.. .

  a very sad jem, who is sick of the whole elder abuse game.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Sure enough -- it was "1914" at our old Hall, though "1975" is likely better.

  For some reason, no JW can forget 1975!
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Give Tony a break! "Macallan 12" is only about $80. Had he been filling that cart with "18", then maybe I would agree he was excessive and wonder about the source of all that cash.
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  ? Question for EX-JW grandfathers. What life advice would you give to your grandchildren and your younger self. ?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read an interesting interview with billionaire warren buffet's sidekick, billionaire charlie munger.

  good read, this grandpa agrees 1000% with his advice.

  i wish i had learned earlier to realize almost everyone lies...(sometimes to themselves) but especially, all politicians and religious leaders.. what advice would you as a grandparent add?".

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  DesirousOfChange

  People are “almost certain to succeed” if they spend less than they earn, invest shrewdly, learn continually and remain disciplined

  And of course, I was always fearful that the Market crashing would be the first sign of the Great Tribulation when they would throw their money into the street.
  

  When I finally decided that I'd like to have some money -- even if I did have to throw it in the street -- the Dow had hit 7500 I decided to wait for it to "readjust" to a more reasonable level.