Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?

by KerryKing in

jws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?

wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.

possibly for dairy products only?

DesirousOfChange

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Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

by Gorb in

jw
friends

have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

the years i became pimo.

a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

DesirousOfChange

DOC....Better late,,than never.

Thanks Beth! That's true.

The encouraging thing is our kids awakened even before we did.

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Crisis of Conscience available for free on Audible

by nicolaou in

i'm unclear on how this has been achieved or if permissions have been given.

presumably, audible (part of amazon) have their own procedures to ensure legality, but here it is nonetheless;.

listen to crisis of conscience - raymond franz by crisis of conscience - raymond franz on audible.

DesirousOfChange

Worked for me just now.................

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Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?

by Sea Breeze in

if you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .

why does the wt.

DesirousOfChange

Is it just Watchtower?

HEADLINE (Aug 15) "Mets fans lose minds over "Hawk Tuah" girl First Pitch"

Mets fans spit on the team’s decision to have Hailey Welch — also known as the “Hawk Tuah” girl — throw out the first pitch before Thursday’s painful 7-6 loss to the A’s.

Welch became a viral sensation earlier this year when the 22-year-old Tennessee native described a sexual act in a rather explicit manner.

[Google it]

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Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

by Gorb in

jw
friends

have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

the years i became pimo.

a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

DesirousOfChange

The 1995 generation change just about took me out. But no! I spent hours/days researching it (wasn't it something about the greek word "to'te" meaning "then" the end will come -- as in not "immediately then" but "way off then"?). Of course, by research, I mean I drug out dozens of WT publications. Well, I convinced myself to hang in there another 15 years. It was the "overlapping generation" that eventually made me Awaken! (See how I did that. LOL)

Some of us just are Slow Learners.

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Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?

by KerryKing in

jws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?

wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.

possibly for dairy products only?

DesirousOfChange

Of course they were! Just as were the "lions, tigers, and bears, OH MY!" *

* That's a line from a kids story book. But then so is the story about Adam and Eve. . . .

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Trapped in a Cycle? The Impact of Advice from Older Members

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/b4ydzsyycve?si=eahti8ccv5hekpqv.

so in the first clip i posted few days ago this young couple especially the sister are struggling with being committed active jws, very likely pioneers, and also following harmful advice from the watchtower not to have a family or higher education ot a better job.

now as things worsen they find it hard to cope.

DesirousOfChange

I do recall a young couple asking us about having children in "The Last Days". We already had our kids so to late to say know, but we referred them to a couple that we know made the decision to "wait until after Armageddon". This couple was now in the late 50s and we even were not sure if they had regrets.

A couple of months later, our young friends announced that they were expecting their first child.

I'm guessing they got some good advice from the older JW couple.

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Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

by Gorb in

jw
friends

have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

the years i became pimo.

a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

DesirousOfChange

This Organization is now for the ignorant and willful suckers . . .

Or those "faking it" for the social aspects. Ignore what they say and concentrate on how they live. How many JWs LIVE like "it's right around the corner"?

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