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  Pioneering

  by Sabin in

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  i`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices.

  one claimed that jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice".

  mind you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son d.fs than for a mother loosing her child in death".

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  Sabin

  I`ve heard many pioneers claim that they are deserving of material things because they are the ones who make all the sacrifices. One claimed that Jehovah had made sure that she got absolutely everything she wanted right down to shelfs so she could put up pic`s of her family because, to quote "we are so deserving, we`ve made the sacrifice". MInd you this is the same sister who told me "it`s harder for me having my son D.Fs than for a mother loosing her child in death". What a stupid cow. Do you think that Jehovah is so busy looking out for the pioneers making sure they get all the extras cause their just so amazing, that he hasn't noticed all the children dying of starvation every day?
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  Was this crazy crap going on in your hall as well?

  by Crazyguy in

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  so any way i wonder if this kinda of activity is the norm in halls?

  my wife has my youngest boy calling an older couple in the hall grampa and grandma, my oldest daughter called another older brother grandpa, and the ms that is studying with my two oldest boys on the down low (like i don't know), he's calling g them his boys.

  what the he'll?

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  Sabin

  Yes I agree with cappytan on this. IT IS ABSOLUTLY WRONG. In this day & age & especially with what we have just witnessed with the R.C there is no way your children should be referring to anybody this way, unless they are long standing friends or members of the family. My kid`s are in their 20`s now, even 15yrs ago I never aloud it, I made it clear "you are not their auntie or uncle. Pissed off some of the oldies but I didn't care. You need to protect your children. & no I`m not being extreme, I`ve seen it happen & the consequences have been terrible for the families involved. Adults that tell kids to mind there elders are putting them in a lions den. If others don't like it that you say no to this then tell them to SOD OFF! your kids are first
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  Wife Equates Having A Good Marriage With Being "Spiritual"

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  so i've noticed lately that my wife seems to think that in order to have a good marriage both people must be "spiritual".

  she thinks being close as a family is all about family worship night, field service and praying together.

  i know where these ideas are coming from but it is very hard to combat them.

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  I just had another thought, maybe you could think on this. There is a big difference between a religious person & a spiritual person. The Pharisees were R & that's why they were so unforgiving & ridged, made serving God a heavy burden for the people. Jesus was S so flexible, kind, forgiving etc. WTBTS are most definitely R. As far as the 3 way cord goes didn't Jeff Jako say at the R.C that those acting in harmony with the bible could also be said to speak for God. So if your applying the principles of scripture in the way you deal with your wife then you are a spiritual man, even if you choose not to be a religious one. Therefore she does not need to worry. You explain that to her & back it up with actions her confidence in you will grow.
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  A Judicial experience.

  by John Aquila in

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  when i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.

  the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.

  the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.

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  I do not have the words.
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  Wife Equates Having A Good Marriage With Being "Spiritual"

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've noticed lately that my wife seems to think that in order to have a good marriage both people must be "spiritual".

  she thinks being close as a family is all about family worship night, field service and praying together.

  i know where these ideas are coming from but it is very hard to combat them.

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  I think that the advise from J Aquila is great. Us girls love to be loved, attention to feel beautiful & that we are the only one. Sometimes men are clumsy with us emotionally. Not because their bad their just men & they see it differently. You need to up the love, look at it from her point of view (at least try). Some of the things the borg says about marriage is really good. About showing honour to ones wife, loving her as your own body, not looking at other women etc. We`re romantic at heart, that's the stuff we see, so if you don't want to be spiritual then your no longer obligated to do the other things. You need to get her to see you do those things because of her not cause of the borg. Example: The sisters were always flirting with my husband, cause he gets women, respects them & is an all round great guy. It drove me insane, they would come up & talk to him & totally ignore me, there bapped sis. I felt really insecure about it & it caused some arguments between us. These women were smarter, prettier & thinner than me, it made me feel like he could do better, I never said that out of fear. Then one day I blurted it out that I felt jealous. You know what he said "I`m the man I am because of the woman I married, I`m not interested in anybody else" all my fears went away. You see this is how we think. Find out what she is really feeling, what is behind her actions & words. Go from there.
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  Local Congregation Takes Away My Dad's Phone Hook-Up (HE'S 85 YRS. OLD)

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  this happened about 6 months ago, didn't really have an opportunity to post about it (been busy), but they still haven't given back his password for the phone hook-up.

  they say that this is direction from the "branch office".

  i think it's complete bs, the real reason why they are doing this is to punish me & my family because i am basically a ghost when it comes to meetings & any type of activity.

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  I think Brandnew say`s it all. Obviously she knows the elders in your dad`s cong, & is absolutely correct.
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  CO layoff buzz. Anyone heard anything?

  by freemindfade in

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  2. scandals

  heard of some co's being "let go".

  anyone else heard anything like this in the last few days?

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  Sabin

  Is that just in the U.S.A?
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  Exiting the JW cult, by Bonnie Zieman.

  by Sabin in

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  2. experiences

  hello to you all, i`m reading this book exiting the jw cult & i think so far it is brilliant.

  i emailed a friend the other day and said "sometimes i feel rage that isn't good towards the j dub`s & what they do to others".

  then i came across this section in the book, pg 62-63, where it says.

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  Hello to you all, I`m reading this book EXiting the JW cult & I think so far it is brilliant. I emailed a friend the other day and said "sometimes I feel rage that isn't good towards the J Dub`s & what they do to others". then I came across this section in the book, pg 62-63, where it says." When we have to repress so much of who we are & what we want, it is infuriating to the self. Trying to be a good, model Jehovah`s witness, we can never reveal the well of anger & rage building inside us-not to other congregation members &, often, not even to ourselves". I thought how true that was, for me anyway. I have felt like that for years, there are some people I know who clearly take advantage of others & your told to wait on Jehovah when all you want to do is smash them, & shout it from the roof tops. Is it just me or does it seem that the more corrupt the J.W the more they get used as an example of goodness on the stage?. The author goes on to explain that repressed rage can account for a lot of the physical ailments that plague the J.W`s. This week I have been to see the Neurologist to get my results for all the test they have been doing on my brain as I was passing out, fitting coming round & vomiting violently & I got the all clear. Yes it`s official I`m normal. I explained about the cult & how since I had been away from it I had been sleeping, no more nightmares & no more passing out. He was totally unsurprised by this which made me think seriously about the amount of others that have had to go through this shit, many I suspect still haven't recognized the cults part in it, I didn't for years. So I`m asking for your thoughts on the book if any have read it? & also if you feel this rage sometimes to? It would be interesting to read the differences between the men & women. SABIN
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  For All Australians Present: How are Australian JWs Reacting to the Royal Commission?

  by Littleleslie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi everyone:.

  i was just wondering how were the baptized jehovah's witnesses responding to the royal commission inquiry.. i know there must be a number of australians present here that could tell us this.. i was especially wanting to know how the jehovah's witnesses were taking the testimony of the governing body member geoffrey jackson?.

  thanks for your comments.. littleleslie .

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  Sabin

  I think I already posted this on here. basically they were told not to watch it & if asked on the service about it they are to say something like " While I myself have CHOOSEN not to watch the Royal commission, as an organization we are pleased that these matters are being looked into so we will be more able to see where we need to make changes". (kingdom smile). Straight out of the mouth of one of the most intelligent young women I know! I think you will find that ozzy JDub`s live in abit of a bubble, they think it`s only them on the planet.
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  Whoa ! maybe it's not as good here in Oz as I thought!

  by wozza in

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  found this on my facebook page that someone had posted , just a joke i hope .

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  Sabin

  Australia, where the men are men & so are the women.