They lie the minuet they speak on the ministry, do they tell the householder they will be going around the corner & writing down everything about them without their knowledge or consent. Do they say they will be sharing that info with others, or going over their note's later to find out what mags & scriptures they can use to gain their trust through common ground. Do they explain to the householder that they are actually there to try to recruit into their cult & tell them "however we must let you know that once in you can never leave, if you do you will be psychologically tortured for life through our shunning policy's". Do they F....k.. I believe this is called lying by omission. You always know when a JW is lying to you cause words come out of their mouth.
Posts by Sabin
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23Statement about Lying in January 2015 Public Watchtower
by BluesBrother inthe online mag opens with this bold statement :.
"most people lie at least once during a ten minute conversation.
why bother trying to be different?".
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Honestly, Do You Still Act or Think Like a JW?
by minimus inor do traces or attitudes still rear its ugly head of your past involvement with the witnesses?
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Mind control, if you didn't think like a jw at times you wouldn't put up a fight to not think like them, you wouldn't be bothered by what they say or do, you would just get on with your life, you wouldn't be on this web site feeling the need to answer this question. I think it takes courage to get away from them & hard work to deprogram your mind of all the crap & loaded language. Lets face it someone coming on this site who has never been a jw would struggle to know what we were talking about, DO, CO, SP, RP, circuit ass, district ass. So yes of corse , You asked for honesty. -
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Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!
by The Searcher ininformation just passed to me.
let's hope this becomes even more widespread.
i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?
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Dwain that sounds pretty spot on to me. Where I am there have been a lot of younger men appointed as elders BUT that's a big BUT they have been either weak & easily manipulated (like one I can think of who has already had a break down & his 4th child, all under 8) or they are power hungry. The weak ones are kinder people but are gutless when it comes to doing the right thing. How sad for these young men who will not only lose ttheir own identities but also valuable time with their families. More children to suffer. -
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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Sabin
Thank you Faye. The reason it ended that way is because it was directed to the WTBTS at the beginning. But of cause I would love to see those who wake up.
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About 'Regular' Pioneers
by Gayle innow that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.
who would have ever thought?.
yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?
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I think they will bring in a new type of pioneer. Your'll have the RP 70 hours, AuxP 50 hours & then the something like MiniP 30 hours. & every-one will say "oh how loving of the brothers to think of those who have always wanted to pioneer but couldn't quite manage the 50". The Borg will come out looking like gods. It will only be those that question it that will see it any different.
As for donations, most RP are in debt for 1000's. Stay out of debt, but pioneer. contradiction or what.
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"Friends" are gone
by BeautifulMind ini have (well had) an extremely small circle of jw friends.
lots of acquaintances and associates but 2 or 3 i would consider my true friends.
that list is now 0. yup, once i told them i no longer believe in the org and haven't for a long time, and their attempts to encourage me thru jw lingo and terminologies to "rely on jehovah" and not to "stray away" failed that was pretty much it.
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Beautifulmind Mind control a, it's amazing when you leave how these so called Christians can just switch off to you, they are like emotionally dead, oh well that's you done & leave. I got my husband to thank God. The thing is it takes time to make new friends cause you have been so programmed not to mix with people outside, but at least you can breath without feeling guilty. Keep your pecker up you can only go up the ladder when your at the bottom. -
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Halloween / Birthday celebration
by River Song innew to the board, first time posting a topic.
i just wanted to say how refreshing and sometimes funny it has been lurking here.
so much so that i decided to sign up to this message board.
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Hello River Song it's so nice to meet you. We brought lots of sweets but no-one came, so now we have to eat them ourselves. What a bummer. Say happy Birthday to your hubby & eat a piece of cake for me.
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Where are you from?
by BeautifulMind ini know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.
but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.
i currently live in georgia, usa.
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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Sabin
That she had cut HERSELF off from the family. WOW!
Dear Brothers at the WTBTS
I am doing really good
Learning lots of new things now
I no longer have nightmares or cry during the day
I don't complain about my pain
I remember how much you don't like that
I must be happy perpetually
You slapped that in to me, to make me strong spiritually
I think it worked for a time
I am wearing my hair how I want to
I wear pants a lot because I'm allowed to
Isn't that funny, that I couldn't before
You say people like me are a burden
Bet your glad you don't have to speak to me
I'm supposed to put myself first sometimes, I kind of like it
I still get a big hole in my tummy When I think I've done something wrong
I have a saying on my wall
" I can make mistakes, it's o.k."
I try to remember it every day
Sometimes I even believe it
I wonder if you ever think about me, even though I know your glad I'm gone
I never want to see you again, I love you all.
The narcissistic personality of this cult means that they are literally incapable of showing an ounce of humility or compassion they will always heap the blame on the people they victimize because they do not see truth, speak truth or hear truth, it is ironic that they claim to be in the truth. They feel no shame because they do not know love. No matter how much we jump up & down we cannot change this simple fact, the fact being they are 100% NARCISSISTIC.
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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses
by dubstepped in"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".
those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.
what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?
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Dubstepped. WOW! that was such a wonderful read & I love the pic of you & your beautiful wife at the end. You have an amazing journey ahead of you my friend enjoy. Big Hug for you both.