Posts by Sabin

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Are baptisms under the age of 18 valid? Can one baptised/dedicated prior actually be dfed according to law?

by EndofMysteries in

in a business law class i've been learning all about contracts.

i wonder if for all of those who were baptized prior to the age of 18, if the wt/elders could be forced on our insistence that our dedication/baptism as a minor was made without proper mental capacity and that it be declared invalid, henceforth having never been baptized then family,etc, would be free in wt's eyes to treat as any non-jw vs shunning as an ex-jw.

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Sabin

Yes Matt2414, we were only discussing this last night, they could potentially be accused of supporting a world wide paedophile ring. What is it nearly 24'000 on their records & you can bet your cotton socks there's elder's, MS, Pioneer's & many other's that are still holding their positions within the congregation. I just don't get why they wont help the authorities if they care about the children, what the hell are they hiding? They have to be hiding something, it just doesn't add up.

As far as the so called baptism the second question say's "Do you understand that your dedication & baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's witnesses In association with God's spirit-directed organization"? Well are they God's spirit directed org? NO. So your baptism is meaningless. It's only them jumping up & down about it. Which just adds to the prove that they are a cult.

Should they baptize minors & then hold them with threat's of shunning, death threat's of dying at Armageddon, Guilt tripping them, taking away their freedom of an education, friendship's. All I see them doing is proving over & over again that they are a cult.

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The Many Faces of Lett

by Watchtower-Free in

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Sabin

Endofm, that is so funny i watched it twice & had tears coming down my face, my husband is going to love this. Thank you.

As far as Steven Lett goes I always think when looking at him that is o.k to be ugly but he's taken it to far.

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Statement about Lying in January 2015 Public Watchtower

by BluesBrother in

the online mag opens with this bold statement :.

"most people lie at least once during a ten minute conversation.

why bother trying to be different?".

Sabin

They lie the minuet they speak on the ministry, do they tell the householder they will be going around the corner & writing down everything about them without their knowledge or consent. Do they say they will be sharing that info with others, or going over their note's later to find out what mags & scriptures they can use to gain their trust through common ground. Do they explain to the householder that they are actually there to try to recruit into their cult & tell them "however we must let you know that once in you can never leave, if you do you will be psychologically tortured for life through our shunning policy's". Do they F....k.. I believe this is called lying by omission. You always know when a JW is lying to you cause words come out of their mouth.

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Honestly, Do You Still Act or Think Like a JW?

by minimus in

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or do traces or attitudes still rear its ugly head of your past involvement with the witnesses?

Sabin

Mind control, if you didn't think like a jw at times you wouldn't put up a fight to not think like them, you wouldn't be bothered by what they say or do, you would just get on with your life, you wouldn't be on this web site feeling the need to answer this question. I think it takes courage to get away from them & hard work to deprogram your mind of all the crap & loaded language. Lets face it someone coming on this site who has never been a jw would struggle to know what we were talking about, DO, CO, SP, RP, circuit ass, district ass. So yes of corse , You asked for honesty.

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Coordinator of Elders Problems in One Southern England Circuit!

by The Searcher in

information just passed to me.

let's hope this becomes even more widespread.

i wonder if the britain branch suspects a conspiracy?

Sabin

Dwain that sounds pretty spot on to me. Where I am there have been a lot of younger men appointed as elders BUT that's a big BUT they have been either weak & easily manipulated (like one I can think of who has already had a break down & his 4th child, all under 8) or they are power hungry. The weak ones are kinder people but are gutless when it comes to doing the right thing. How sad for these young men who will not only lose ttheir own identities but also valuable time with their families. More children to suffer.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Sabin

Thank you Faye. The reason it ended that way is because it was directed to the WTBTS at the beginning. But of cause I would love to see those who wake up.

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About 'Regular' Pioneers

by Gayle in

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now that district overseers have been deleted, now that bethelites are being devalued and increasingly dismissed, now that special pioneers are being deleted in u.s., and maybe elsewhere gradually.

who would have ever thought?.

yet, now what is the value to be a regular pioneer to the org?

Sabin

I think they will bring in a new type of pioneer. Your'll have the RP 70 hours, AuxP 50 hours & then the something like MiniP 30 hours. & every-one will say "oh how loving of the brothers to think of those who have always wanted to pioneer but couldn't quite manage the 50". The Borg will come out looking like gods. It will only be those that question it that will see it any different.

As for donations, most RP are in debt for 1000's. Stay out of debt, but pioneer. contradiction or what.

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"Friends" are gone

by BeautifulMind in

i have (well had) an extremely small circle of jw friends.

lots of acquaintances and associates but 2 or 3 i would consider my true friends.

that list is now 0. yup, once i told them i no longer believe in the org and haven't for a long time, and their attempts to encourage me thru jw lingo and terminologies to "rely on jehovah" and not to "stray away" failed that was pretty much it.

Sabin

Beautifulmind Mind control a, it's amazing when you leave how these so called Christians can just switch off to you, they are like emotionally dead, oh well that's you done & leave. I got my husband to thank God. The thing is it takes time to make new friends cause you have been so programmed not to mix with people outside, but at least you can breath without feeling guilty. Keep your pecker up you can only go up the ladder when your at the bottom.

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Halloween / Birthday celebration

by River Song in

new to the board, first time posting a topic.

i just wanted to say how refreshing and sometimes funny it has been lurking here.

so much so that i decided to sign up to this message board.

Sabin

Hello River Song it's so nice to meet you. We brought lots of sweets but no-one came, so now we have to eat them ourselves. What a bummer. Say happy Birthday to your hubby & eat a piece of cake for me.

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Where are you from?

by BeautifulMind in

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i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

i currently live in georgia, usa.

Sabin

Down Under Mate!