Paul from Cleveland, what you have written is so true. The sad fact here is that those ones who are mixing with Nerd in the Brain are probably considered spiritually weak in the congregation & the so called strong ones avoid having to much association with them. Unless they are one of the lucky few to be in what my hubby calls "A golden cong" I was in one of those years ago & it was lovely. Oh how sheltered I was.
Posts by Sabin
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50An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall
by Bangalore inhttp://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.
he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.
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kid's, the things they say
by Sabin inwe had this plan of action with our kid's, if they asked us a question that we deemed they were to young to know about we would divert their attention, oh, could you fetch mummy her cardi, i'm feeling abit cold, there's some sweets in my pocket, would you like one etc, you get the idea.
usually this would be enough & they would forget about what they had asked.
when they wern't diverted & asked again we would provide an honest explanation suitable for their age.
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Sabin
We had this plan of action with our kid's, if they asked us a question that we deemed they were to young to know about we would divert their attention, Oh, could you fetch mummy her cardi, I'm feeling abit cold, there's some sweets in my pocket, would you like one etc, you get the idea. Usually this would be enough & they would forget about what they had asked. When they wern't diverted & asked again we would provide an honest explanation suitable for their age. So my hubby goes off to pick up our 8 year old daughter, in the car on the way home she says.
"my friends older sister told me that daddies put there willies in mummies private parts, is that true?" my husband, tries to divert the conversation, but to no avail cause she asked him again. When he got home & told me I said,
"please tell me you didn't lie to her"
" No, I looked out the window & thought where the hell is my wife when I need her, then I said, Yes it is true however there is so much more to it than just the physical side that you will learn about when you are older"
" o.k. that is good, what did she say?"
"She said that is disgusting, & didn't speak to me the rest of the way home"
Poor man, You got any funny things your kids have said that have thrown you off kilter?
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Personal thoughts and evaluations upon the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization
by Finkelstein infrom my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.
reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.
this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.
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Sabin
Dunedain, Are you related to my husband? that is almost word for word how he put it. Refused to get bapped over the head cause of how false everything was. He always points out how judgment, mean, cruel & backstabbing they are. The headship arrangement has really worked for me in that he wont allow me to have them in the house if he isn't here to protect me from their emotional abuse AND THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT, cause they are the one's who teach the man is head of his home. As far as my own opinion goes they are nothing to do with a loving God, they don't preach Jesus message to love your neighbour, in-fact they usually try to leave Jesus out altogether cause he is ONLY the SON of God after all. I don't think they have much understanding of the bible at all, they make it up as they go along. But I have to confess it looks good on paper as long as you don't read the small print.
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An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall
by Bangalore inhttp://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.
he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.
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Sabin
You are most welcome, we are not a bad bunch on here, please don't leave over one discussion that didn't go to well. You will find that some times when one of our fellow forum friends is hurt we all jump to defend, to protect. Especially those who have experienced being brutally & unjustly treated by JW's leaders/elders.
The reason I suggest about those policies is so you can see the lies that those at the top are telling to those like your friends who would be considered at the bottom. The sad fact is that many of us have defended the org & in my own case would have gladly died for it only to be devastated to discover that we were played for fools. Now most passionately (not always in the best of ways) would wish to spare others like yourself that pain. That is the basic fact of the matter.
If you have no joy, please if you have time take a look at the Australian Royal Commission & Jehovah's Witnesses, you will have it straight from the horses mouth. No Care, No compassion, No justice, No love for these poor innocent children who now number into 10's of 1000's around the world.
jwfacts
jwsurvey
AAWA2014
jwstruggle
you could also take a look at Steven Hassan book, Combating Cult Mind Control.
I am a Jehovah's witness, I do believe in God in his son Christ Jesus & the bible that tells us at proverbs 18:15 "The heart of the understanding one acquires knowledge,& the ear of the wise one seeks to find knowledge". The facts are what they are, some desire to be in the "Truth" while others like myself & many on this forum desire "THE Truth". I hope this is of help to you.
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Something nice, non-jw
by FadeToBlack ini was out with my 4 dogs last night around 10:30 under a bright moon.
it was frosty (-4 c).
i heard some noise in the field behind my house (my backyard is a national forest).
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Sabin
We looked after a dog for a couple who went on holiday in what I can only describe as snake heaven. In the middle of summer, humidity in the 90's in a house that has a tin roof & no air-conditioning. You would open the door to see Eastern Browns, Taipans, Red bellies all snakes, all venomous. So I go to bed leaving my hubby watching t.v. Just dozing off when he starts shouting, so I run down stairs just as he is coming up with his arms out stretched to protect me, swearing his head off. As he had been watching t.v. a snake went through his legs, he froze until it had passed. Cause he only had the light from the t.v. & a small lamp we couldn't see it properly only that it was about 6 foot, & the dog wouldn't go near it. So we got in the truck, left everything unlocked & on & drove home.
The next day thinking it was most likely a Python we went back looking for it. We pulled everything out even the oven, no sign. In the main living area there was a big book shelf with a big bowl on the top & my hubby decided that it was in there. So, he got a stick reached up & gently tapped on the bowl. He was right, it was in the book shelf, but not in the bowl. I saw his whole body go stiff, he turned his head & with a pale face & eye's like saucers said "I found the Snake" it was on the shelf by his head looking straight at him, thank God it was a python. It was so funny I just cracked up laughing at him. Some-one we know who keeps them came & got her & we decided we would take the dog back to our place to sleep. I have to say though she was beautiful.
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I put up lights this year
by Zoos ini have always wanted to do that.. nothing special.
in fact, i have learned i'm not very good at it.
i have many talents.
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Sabin
Zoos I so look forward to seeing them. Is it the rebellious side of you coming out? is this your first xmas? Have fun. Oh BTW make sure you put up mistletoe, get lots of kisses.
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An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall
by Bangalore inhttp://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.
he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.
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Sabin
Label licker, Yes you do have a right to feel sad & angry & every one on here supports you. This has been a trigger for you that has brought back terrible feelings. Nerd in the brain, is not trying to hurt you personally & I have to say really has only one experience to speak of with the JW's. When some-one hasn't been exposed to the bigger picture (which isn't their fault) what else can they say. In general I find that in any organization there will be the righteous & unrighteous, then the small group of the GOOD who are more concerned with the un-justices brought on others more so than on themselves.
Nerd in the Brain, thank you for taking the time to explain yourself that was kind. I do hope after reading Label lickers experience you can find some room in your heart to understand her response. And may I suggest that you ask your friend to show you the October 2012 policies on chid abuse within the JW organization. Then you will have a better idea of which group your friends truly are in (righteous/un-righteous/good). You will probably find they don't know anything about these policies, because the top dogs in the org have a habit of lying by omission to the lowly members. I am glad that you have found some good friends wether JW's or no.
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The Shocking Origins Of...
by freemindfade ini can't deal with this crap witnesses plaster on social media (facebook).
"the shocking origins of christmas!
" first off no one cares, leave the people alone.
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Sabin
Xmas, yeah it can be nice with all it's pretty things & giving of gifts & I guess if you never got to celebrate it as a kid you may feel like you missed out on something. I think personally that just comes down to how good your home life is. I worked in schools, watched the rich kids talking bout all the presents they got, the look on the faces of the poorer ones was not a pleasant experience. Sure if you don't give a shit bout those poorer kids it wouldn't have mattered, but I did. Xmas is like everything else in life, it can be a happy time for some & a time of sorrow for others. I love the fact that so many organizations at that time of year put themselves out to help poorer families, provide shelter for the homeless, & make a xmas dinner for the hungry. They are the unsung heroes for this time of year. when JW's do things like that they can moan all they like. But they don't EVER. So they should shut their mouths. -
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Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve
by Tech49 ina new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.
dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.
we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.
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Tech49, They want to "chat" about us wilfully associating with DF & DA family members. & that we were evidently ignoring WT counsel.
However you were not ignoring Jesus counsel, Treat others, how you want them to treat you. Do not resist him that is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. Continue to love your enemies, & pray for those persecuting you that you may prove yourselves sons of your farther who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon the wicked people & good & makes it rain upon righteous people & un-righteous.
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Of Minions and Smurfs
by oppostate indidn't take too long for the minions to join the smurfs as being satanic in the minds of some jw's.
whadda-bunch-of-bull-hukey-puckiesi!.
this showed up on jw facebook timelines today.. .
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Sabin
They must be BANANNAS