ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Another thing to think about. If there is a designer that designed us to believe in gods, then in a sense, we are programmed. What does that do to free-will and how does that make us different than programmed robots? And for those that fight their programming---what does that say about them?
Religiosity may be a side affect of other traits that favored survival.
ricky gervais tweeted this 11/14/12 and i totally agree with it:.
"there are good atheists and bad atheists.
there are good believers and bad believers.. no god has ever changed that.".
Did I loose this gene? Is is faulty?
Interesting! Can my eyes change from green to brown?
i remember hearing rumblings of a few that had gone "apostate" and feeling absolute dread of the dark world they had stepped into.
i would re-double my studying efforts.
to me, "apostates" had gone over into the "dark side".
Yep! That was one doorknob I was afraid to jiggle. Imagine my surprise to find the REAL party on the other side of the door! LOL
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
i really just want to get an idea if athiest worry about the afterlife i do not wish to force my beliefs on anyone.
No, we don't. If we did, we probably are not atheists. I fear or worry about an afterlife as much as I fear a monster under my bed. I can't really prove it isn't there (cuz it's invisible if I look) but it is so unlikely as not to cause me any distress at all.
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
To continue---this non-atheist is all compassionate and concerned about the afterlife for atheists. I consider this a waste of compassion and energy, because there is no afterlife. I would prefer they put all that motivation into something that can be achieved----cancer research----feeding the children---healthcare----protecting the enviornment---social justice---whatever. Something that can actually be achieved.
It is a shame that someone would let something like the afterlife worry them so, while there are so many real goals to shoot for.
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
That almost seems to imply that believers do otherwise...yes?
Well, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in an afterlife. So it is only natural that I will view those who place their hope in an afterlife are placing their hope in something that cannot be achieved. So, yes. Now if a non-atheist wants to continue to put their hope in this thing that, from my viewpoint, does not exist, then that is their perogative. Yet as an atheist, it would be dishonest for me to say that non-atheists don't do otherwise. So I'm not implying, I am expressing my viewpoint.
Does that translate to mean that non-atheists don't also put some hope into things that can be achieved? No. They do. But they also put their hope into things that cannot be achieved. I just leave that part out.
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
no hope at all!
It just depends on what you think is hopeful. As an atheist, I don't find it hopeful to dwell on the idea of an afterlife if it is not a reality. This is not about going with the best bid, you know. It's about what is, what is possible, and what we can accept. You can offer me streets paved in gold, or you can offer me luxurious naps on a cloud, but if you can't produce those things, then there is still no hope of it---only a false hope that will lead to disappointment.
I have a lot of hope, but I hope in things that are real and can be achieved. I don't wast my time chasing rainbows. I focus on where real progress can be made.
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
I don't have a god to forgive me my frailties
I must find forgiveness within myself
but I am not a forgiving soul
I require acts to rhetoric
I require progress not excuses
You think your god tasks you
he's a piker compared to my sense of justice
For I demand it first from myself
and I recognize that I fail too damn often
david m myles
one of the few things i've been able to hold down in my stomache the last few weeks is frozen grapes.
i love how they never completely freeze.
anyone try this before?.
I love frozen grapes.
i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?
it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.
i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.
NC, what if their Hells are worse than YHWH's Hell?
That's what keeps me up at night! LOL
Since becoming an atheist, I no longer experience guilty pleasure! Just pure pleasure!
