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Good Reasons To Hate Every Weak And Ex-Jehovah Witness.

by AuntConnie in

1. my husband's time is finite, it's wasted on spouses arguing over money, sex or family mattters with stupid home visits.. .

i hate people's constant open hand for money, it's the weak individuals asking others to pull their weight.

my family worked extra hours instead of begging the strong members for district assembly money, cat food for seven cats or tiny little rag-a-muffins weiner dogs.. .

NewChapter

Welcome, Aunt Connie.

It's important to remember that this is a cult, but it is a cult with benefits. The benefits to the 'cripples' as you put it, and the needy can be quite large. These are the people that will feel less compelled to research this cult and leave, because if they do, who will snake their toilets?

As time goes on, those that are needy will outnumber the able bodied members, and then you will know the true joy of Christian love and giving of yourself! I am pleased that your parents, in their old age, have stepped off that treadmill and are getting some rest from it. Stop blaming them for your situation, dearie, cuz you're all grown up now, and you have resources. You are here! It's a good start. It's sad that your apprentice is in her 90's and wasting these precious last years knocking on doors. You should send her home or take her to lunch. Stop dragging her around.

You want your husband to stop being the go-to guy? Speak up. Get off the roles. Misbehave. He won't be able to control his own household, and therefore will not qualify as an elder. As it is, you only enable this disfunctional cycle. You can only control what you do---so either be happy with it or change what you are doing. Or be miserable, because that is a good start.

This organization will use you up until there is nothing left, and then it will throw you away. Stay at your own risk.

Be angry, but let it motivate you! Be critical, but turn that criticism on the organization itself. A codependent person will always help, but then feel bitter about it afterward. Help if it makes you happy, and say no if it doesn't.

By coming here, you have taken responsibility for your decisions. If you stay, their sickness will become ever more evident.

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Something to Think About

by Mr. Falcon in

how will it seem years from now when all that we cherish and believe will become as dusty exhibits in a museum?

we are constantly finding ourselves in different states of being, between breakfast and dinner.

perhaps, even that final snack before we are carried off in a realm of terrifying heights or ages undreamed of.

NewChapter

And yet, with the shattering of your own transitional state, you sloppily and without apology spray all within your vortex and alter their state of flux. The man who faced the predictable changes of 10 steps, door, 5 steps, elevator, 20 steps, office, chair, promotion now must insert a drycleaner into his stream of change as he now worries about the fruit punch stains on his tie. The street sweeper whose job is finished and he yearns for the changes of car, home, dinner, sex, must now step away from the pending changes and sweep up the red-stained crystalline shards that gleam and seem to bleed from the pain of broken continuum.

So little is sure, as we dodge the hurling fruit punch glasses of change, except this one thing: A good drycleaner is indispensible. A solid building, permeated with the smell of chemicals, and an urgent little man concerned with the life's artwork on a white shirt, to help us get a grip and slow the tide of this mecurial existence. Gravy stains are extra, but aren't they always, as such richness does not come without a greater price. The fat of being thickened and seasoned to make the bland go down easily and with enjoyment.

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Leaving JWs/Christianity reading list

by Captain Obvious in

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part of this has been discussed to death on here but here goes.

since waking up, i've read or listened to: .

crisis of conscience.

NewChapter

Merry Christmas Captain Obvious.

You will have a pm in just a minute or two.

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Catholicism: Having Sex with Your Wife Can Be Adulterous

by Most Noble in

pope john paul ii urged husbands "not to commit adultery with their wives by desiring sex for its mere pleasure and the satisfaction of instinct" (modras: 124, of 1980).. .

we weren't exactly expecting a sex positive response, but isn't it a tad over the top, and well, you know, wrong to say that sex with your wife could even possibly be adulterous?

the argument is that having sex for pleasure, rather than procreation, is against church doctrine, but how on earth is that adulterous?

NewChapter

If I recall this correctly, he also looked at all the Catholic couples that had got married without getting their first marriages annulled by the Church, or whatever it is they do. He said that couples in this kind of relationship should quit having sex and live more like siblings or friends. I'll look for the link if no one else recalls. Apparently, every time married people have sex, they can be committing adultery.

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More shooting

by Hortensia in

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it's interesting that i don't see as much comment on the shooting of the volunteer firemen earlier today as we saw for the shooting at the school in connecticut.

it's just as horrible an event.

how terrible that these volunteers who got out of bed to fight a fire, dangerous enough, were used as targets by some nut with an assault weapon.

NewChapter

Oh, I think there is always enough money to keep people in prison. Just never enough to keep them out.

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most boring television ever

by Hortensia in

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my vote is for the lord of the rings, all three of them.

or pretty much any star trek movie.

i tried watching the lor movies today, but my god, it's just battle after battle after battle and frodo, cute guy though he is, wimping out all over the place and having to be carried by everyone.. dull... i have never succeeded in watching those damn movies from beginning to end..

NewChapter

I love LOTR---read the books---loved the movies. But I could never get into Harry Potter. I find it unwatchable. Perhaps if I read the books, which I haven't. I just never last more than a few minutes.

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Who did jesus look like, his mom or his dad?

by Honeybucket in

if jesus was immaculate, what would his dna and alleles look like?

would he be the spitting image of mary?.

NewChapter

Did Jesus look like a Roman soldier who raped his mother? Its a more likely explanation for the mystery around his paternity than myths about virgin births.

I've heard this theory too. And we know how the ancient Hebrews treated rape victims, according to their god's law! *shiver* I'd make up a virgin birth story too! LOL

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Who did jesus look like, his mom or his dad?

by Honeybucket in

if jesus was immaculate, what would his dna and alleles look like?

would he be the spitting image of mary?.

NewChapter

It is the number one reason why I hate christianity.

I have to agree with you here. We tell our children that we are 'fallen' and defective. Rather than just teaching them that we are human, and this is what we have to work with, and we can do incredible things with that, we have to teach them that they are incomplete and bad without intercession. We teach them to look for the worst in humans, in order to confirm their biases, and then they pop up on forums and lament the sad downward spiral of humanity---when actually things have greatly improved, but they can't fully celebrate that and focus on where we need to work harder. What's the use? Humans are just bad, and getting worse.

We look at a newborn, and it is a marvelous sight. But somewhere in the Christian mind this teeny, tiny human is fallen and sinful and already in need of some kind of salvation. A sad, dismal and totally unnecessary way to view the world. It's a contaminant.

So we have human suffering, and Christians step up to the plate------------to blame human's sinful nature. LOL

When we see tiger suffering (as BOTR brought out) we don't blame the tiger's sinful nature---some people even blame that suffering on we wretched humans. Is the weather bad? Yeah---it's cuz humans are defective. Is an asteroid hurling toward earth? Yep---human imperfect. You see, our imperfection is so profound, so powerful, that it can even cause events in the cosmos. Humans are, afterall, the center of creation. LOL

But seriously. I'm glad I not caught up in that muck anymore. It really is a hateful way to view fellow humans. I prefer the it is what it is approach, and then do what I can do to improve that to the best of my ability. It's just not something I think we should leave up to God or Christ

And I'll give you the answer to the OP. If Jesus existed, he was a man. He was a man born in Palestine. He had Jewish parents, and human dna. He lived, he ate, he preached, and he DIED. He got tired. He got sniffles. He looked like his parents, as the society would have been homogenous. He did good and he did bad. I suspect he was a political trouble maker, not necessarily a bad thing, but he was a political player. A rebel.

That's if he existed, and I'm of the opinion that he did. But maybe he didn't. And what followed is what follows with many influencial people. Their deaths are used to uphold an ideology and the grow and become more perfect after their deaths than they ever could have been during their life. We like to saint people----ordinary people who maybe did some extraordiary things. He taught nothing new, nothing fresh, but simply consolidated some very old and tested ideas that perhaps the Jews were rejecting because they were foreign. He was kind of like John Lennon, who is also viewed as a saint, just a few short years after his death. It doesn't take long.

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Some History About Your "Conservative" Ancestors

by metatron in

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http://archive.org/stream/garsouvenirsportingguide#page/n5/mode/2up.

this is from a university of louisville archive.

it is a "sporting guide" for union veterans , widely advertised in that day.. do i have to explain the ads?

NewChapter

You're a witch and not a virgin? Not sure that I can continue this bad association!

Your loss!

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Some History About Your "Conservative" Ancestors

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://archive.org/stream/garsouvenirsportingguide#page/n5/mode/2up.

this is from a university of louisville archive.

it is a "sporting guide" for union veterans , widely advertised in that day.. do i have to explain the ads?

NewChapter

Morals are "worse and worse"? Baloney!

LOL. I know. We went and gave up slavery, segregation, gave women equal rights, quit working our children in dangerous factories----what's wrong with us. We used to have such good morals!

I was reading a book about Margerie Kemp, a woman who went on pilgrimages in the middle ages. Her account is special, because it was the only well-documented life of a WOMAN (ugh----who would have thought anyone would have cared). Any way, she had a priest write out her life story for her, but the book supplemented with extra information about these holy pilgrimages. They had a pamphlet they could buy that would teach you how to say something like, "Pretty woman, will you share my bed tonight." Which was okay, because if you died on pilgrimage, you went straight to Heaven, and if you lived, you were absolved of all sin.

I recently got into a discussion on this board where someone was lamenting the downward spiral that society was on. I understand the sentiment, as the news was full of some disturbing things that week, however it is not the reality. This is not a decline. I'm glad I live today in this wretched society than risk being stoned for not being a virgin, or being burned for being a witch cuz I was too smart or outspoken. And I'm glad I can vote, and I'm glad we don't have government (and church) sanctioned slavery.

And guys were always guys---and women were always women---and all the rest was window dressing and make-believe tv programs that never presented the reality.