i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
I asked youngbro about why he wants to still serve and an MS. He sent me a reply, but is out of posts.
| Post my reply lol | |
| I cannot make any more posts for now, but my reply is this: I KNOW I will not be kept, they are going to delete me, I know it. And Here is the thing, if I get a bad intro letter, they will not jump on me to be used, thus making it easier for me |
for those who may have heard the term "cognitive dissonance" and are not really fully familiar with it .
.. carol tavris, is a social psychologist and writer of the book "mistakes were made (but not by me)".
here she is interviewed about cognitive dissonance theory and confirmation bias.
Sizemik--great interview. While listening to it, this song kept coming to mind. I thought you might find it interesting. I may have posted it before---not sure.
for those who may have heard the term "cognitive dissonance" and are not really fully familiar with it .
.. carol tavris, is a social psychologist and writer of the book "mistakes were made (but not by me)".
here she is interviewed about cognitive dissonance theory and confirmation bias.
Size--I've been listening to it for 40 minutes now. FASCINATING and I haven't read the book. I'm still getting a great deal out of it. The other topics look intriguing too.
NC
i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
youngbro, I asked you if you were still seeking to remain an MS. You responded in an edit:
Sort of. If I do get to remain, I can be a undercover, and thus tick the elduhs off.
If (which is what I assume will happen), I am deleted, I can change congs and begin to fade....
Youngbro, I don't believe you are thinking this through. What if you are not deleted? Have you seen posts here by active elders and MS? They are in agony. You suffer from depression, do you really think you should expose yourself to this? And to what end? To be a mole? We will always have moles. If changing congs and fading is an option for you, then go ahead and do it. Why hang onto this goal? Think about this, you have already disqualified yourself as an MS. That's a GOOD thing! I urge you to think about this a lot more. Why put yourself further on their radar before you move? They will tell your new congregation about any failed attempts to hand on to being an MS. Then they will be watching you more closely.
NC
i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
dm6--I think he is already seeing a doctor. I'm sorry your antidepressant didn't work for you, but they work for many people. Recommending an addcitive drug may be counter productive. That's good it worked for you, but I don't know if you ever even met youngbro and that doesn't work for everyone. It's better to leave the prescribing to doctors. You can certainly share your experience though.
NC
i got into a tiny discussion with a return visit about the cross.
i confidently informed her that the cross was a pagan symbol not used by christians.
the romans were pagans, so they used a pagan symbol.
We walked up one driveway to meet with a woman who was outside. Her large dog greeted us and kept jumping up with his front paws on our skirts--smearing feces all over both of us. The woman just sat there smirking. We were done for the day. The smell was horrible.
NC
i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
Youngbro---are you still seeking to be a ministerial servant?
NC
according to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .
the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .
which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...
Moral by whose standards Daring? And just remember this-you don't have to date them just because they are willing. If you already know enough about them to know things won't mesh well, just pass them by. You are friends now, and that's all. When we were in, the most important consideration was spiritual qualifications. Everything else took second place. Many couples just stopped at the spiritual and got married on a hormone rush. How much time did you spend thinking about the kind of person you REALLY want to spend time with? That initial attraction wears off quickly, and you are left with pure substance. Just what kind of substance are you looking for?
When I was in I dated people because they were active JW's. My secondary interests weren't even important to them! Two wanted me to marry them, and it was like a bag of bricks on my chest. The pressure was intense--afterall we are only supposed to date to find a spouse. It made me feel like I was doing something wrong simply by saying that they aren't interested in what I'm interested in and I can't go through with this. But they were spiritually qualified, so what was my problem?
I often confided in friends that I wished it allowable to simply date with no real direction for a while. I would joke that I'd like to have a boyfriend to hang out with, watch movies with, go to museums with---but then he could go home. I would get that disapproving look. It was very evil of me to simply want to have some connection with someone special and not have to plan my life around him. That's gone now. I can just be myself.
NC
according to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .
the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .
which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...
Hi Daring,
Actually there was a man that I knew for 10 years and was totally crazy about. Several times while I was still "in" we had a pseudo dating relationship because I always drew back. We would talk for hours about the craziest things. We were both idea people. I contacted him after I left and we picked up like no time had passed. We are no longer together, and that may be because I had 2 marriages that ended badly and I'm not really in the mood to make that final and forever committment.
Expand your experience. Get some interests. Read. Have something to talk about. Then go where people with like interests would be.
There are no real answers. It's just a social thing. JW's put such weird emphasis on every little interaction it's enough to terrify anyone.
NC
when - if ever - has the watchtower ever condemned shunning craziness?
let me post some examples i personally encountered:.
a daughter shuns her witness father and won't talk to him.
LOL Vein Love! Priceless! They should be pushing the movie since the vampire refuses to have sex without being married. LOL
