stillstuckcruz

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  Better to live the JW "life" or live the christian life, die, and be resurrected?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a question i've been wanting to ask.

  i'm not sure if i understand their whole "resurrection" teaching totally.

  but it appears that to any jw's who may not want to be, or any others for that matter, dont have to be baptized in the borg at all.

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  This is a question I've been wanting to ask. I'm not sure if I understand their whole "resurrection" teaching totally. But it appears that to any Jw's who may not want to be, or any others for that matter, dont HAVE to be baptized in the Borg at all. If there's going to be a spiritual resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous(basically everyone as far as I know), isn't it better to just live your life the way you feel is right, and then just be resurrected later? Whats the difference between slaving for the Society for you entire life, and being resurrected later to the same end? I'm not sure I understand it all
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  Thank you for this update. If he will read CoC, it could very well be a game-changer for him. Please keep us posted, if possible. (Hassan's book will help with the 'Where else would we go?' issue.)

  ^I do indeed believe that to be the case. I am trying every avenue I can to obtain a copy of Hassan's book. It seems the two books work well interchangably it seems.

  MAd Sweeney- I will explain to him the the reason I mention this now as opposed to later was in light of tomorrows WT study. I feel if I mentions that he wont think of the WT so much as "timely" as they would call it. I will see if I get him started today. Our meeting is 9:30 AM so it has to start asap.

  No chance of skipping the meeting. Parents would have a cow. lol. As far as him being a rat, I already know for a fact that won't be the case. Of course, nothing is 100 certain. But from his uncertain and obviously ignorant answers to my questions, Its obvious he is not totally sold on every teaching.But I told him that if he reads the book in its entirety and is still 100% conviced its the truth w/o a doubt, I will never mention it again. We'll see what happens *crosses fingers*
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  went to a funeral today, somewhat awestruck.

  by man in black in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this morning i went to a catholic funeral mass for a priest who inherited, and help grow an orphanage in chicago.

  he died from cancer which he had for the past several years.. when he got the orphanage back in the early 70's the church was ready to shut it down for lack of direction, and growth.

  but since he took over the reins,.

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  I always hate going to JW funerals. They turn into preaching sessions for their non-JW relatives. At the end they always say...."if you would to like to recieve more information about Jehovah's Witness teaching and the resurrection hope, you may see any one of Jehovah's Witnesses and they would be more that happy to share that with you". It really annoyed me. Very nice story. I look forward to those real life people when I can finally get out. :)
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  I have GOOD NEWS!!!! I just told my brother everything because I couldn't take it anymore. I explained a couple of things such as new light. And his explantion was God awful. But he agreed to read the book CoC. So Im really happy. I have no idea what kind of view hell take but I'm happy that at least he has an open mind about it. I have such a HUUUGe sigh of relief for getting that off my chest. :)
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  CCMC must come first, though. Then you'll understand the psychology you're up against.

  ^I agree. As soon as my friend can get the book for me, I will begin to read it. I've chosen not to say anything to him until after I've at least finished that. I used to think JWs were so one-of-a-kind. Totally unique in every way.....turns out their very much the same as other cults....
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  What is Apostasy?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone noticed how religionists redefine apostasy so that it can never apply to them?.

  according to religionists an apostate is anyone who leaves the watchtower.. according to god however an apostate is anyone who follows the watchtower.. this is an act spiritual unfaithfulness or prostitution - following a pseudo-mediator or visible golden calf instead of the greater moses namely jesus..

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  I agree. I've been looking through every occurence of apostacy and they make every single one out to horrible, evil, mentally diseased people bent on tearing down the "truth" from others. Little do they know....
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  My story .....no friends after leaving the Cult and lost wife?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i realized today that i have no friends at all...it's me and my wife and two dogs and three goldfish, thats it's....i'm not too bothered by it but my wife wants to go back just for the friends.....i have de-programed her out of the "matrix" and she now thinks for herself, but she still feels like she needs a spritual side and friends.

  i have people at work but we don't hang out.

  i've become a a loner.

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  It really is awful. I feel for you. Their love is exclusive on you devotion to the Society. I'm sure there are more suicides than are reported...
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  LOL! Ironically. but i dont own porn. But I do know how to hide things well. Years of avoiding detection by the parentals. :)
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  Wow thankx for all the great advice guys! :) I have so much to work with. In answer to many questions, I am still living at home. I work a part time 3x a week at 8.50 an hour. Still looking for better work.

  I have absolutely no plans of talking to my parents about anything right now. Cult relief or otherwise. My main goal for this thread was in case the situation ever arose when I least expected it...and yes next weeks WT(which I have the "privelege" of reading at the Sunday meeting BTW) helps absolutely NOTHING.

  With regards to telling my brother, I am still going to do it. Now its just the matter of how I can get him to look for himself. I change the 95% to 100%. I'm sure no matter what, he wont tell my parents or the elders. I know him too well to know he's not about to put me through hell. Were too close for that. I also think with proper planning, I can get him to do research. He doesnt do any personal study so he's not so stuck on beliefs that he can see anything else. I'm having a close friend of mines at work order CoC and CCMC for me so I can have them in the flesh. (cant find CCMC in pdf format anyhow)

  I noticed that through my research of people leaving the Borg, most found that the easiest thing to do was to move to hall far away and just not go. Most people said that was most effective. I'm not sure what to do at this point, but I'm certainly not rushing into anything.There were so many great ideas about where to start. Anonymous emails is a really good one. It really makes me happy to see people here who have been there. So much for the "mask of sincerity" all apostates are accused of(WT06 5/15 Lessons For Us)

  You guys are amazing to say the least
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  Suggestions for finally talking to my parents about my doubts?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'll give my story again:.

  i was raised a believing witness.

  i had a normal life and very loving parents who would do anything for me and my brother(who is 21).

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  @ scully: excellent idea! I always wanted to do this. It could be with many teachings really. New generation. 1914. New light, etc. I guess the only reason I haven't is because I'm afraid of them being skeptical as to why I'm asking. They know im shaky in the "truth" right now so I guess I dont want them jumping to any conlusions. But I may try that if I can gather up enough nerve