is it better to fade or just move on with your life?
i have been fading for over a year because most of my close family is still in.
i would never meet with the elders or write a letter to quit.
My husband knows I want out and we still love each other. But he taunts me
Please tell me you recognize this as a psychological mind-trip? This is worrisome. A spouse should never taunt the other....
You have found something better. Your freedom.
Lisa
have you ever thought of all those creepy files that the elders keep on wrongdoing?
how strange to have your sins written down and kept in a file somewhere.
do they ever dispose of them?
And then there is the JR Brown interview where he states the will "find you" if you move to another congregation...<<twilight zone music>>
i posted another version of this a few months back.
at the time i asked for comments on it, and subsequently ignored almost everything anyone told me.
" others recommended a differet tone.
Finally had a chance to read this. Two things stood out.
The "Three Layers of Propoganda" thingy. I think that deserves its own thread.
Also
This is God’s true organization.”Man can you say CIRCULAR reasoning and yet it is right on the money.“If so, why be afraid of hearing out one who disagrees?”
“Because they might lead you away from God’s true organization.”
“But what if these ones are right?”
“They can’t be right since this is God’s true organization.”
“But shouldn’t such an organization withstand honest-hearted scrutiny?”
“It’s thinking like that that has led many away from God’s true organization.”
Under what circumstances is it wise to disallow yourself the hearing of all sides of an important issue?
quite a few months ago here at jwd comments were posted by a governing body member in which he mentioned that some software named sas was "only a tool" used at bethel.
can anyone explain what this sas software is, and what it is used for at bethel?.
sounds like it might be expensive.. --vm44
Recommended catchphrase for SAS.
"SAS. We don't make the Awakes you buy, we make the Awakes you buy a lot better."
LOL.
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(if this image doesn't come over, please tell me what i might be doing wrong.
it is jpg.
Anyone remember--didn't Stephanus used to do these?
And TD used to do Fred Hall cartoons, which were almost as amusing as reading the Awake.
bill clinton interview on cnn about global poverty issues.
i love some of the programs he talked about and showed during the interview - and i like the way he recognizes and puts some value on helping people up - i especially liked the program for the rural farmer where he gets 5 cows to start his farm up and after a specific amount of time, he in turn gives 5 of his now growing herd, on to the next guy to start his farm.
giving people a hand is not giving them a hand out.
I especially liked the program for the rural farmer where he gets 5 cows to start his farm up
Notice he wasn't given a Denny's Grand Slam breakfast, rather a WAY TO WORK HIMSELF out of poverty.
Lisa
The poor will always be with you Class
after i left the organization, one of the things that surprised me the most, was the clergy of christendom and their view of jehovah's witnesses.
i thought as a jw, we were the 'center' of their attention, and they not only hated us, but were afraid of all the things we published about them.. nothing could have been farther from the truth!
most ministers hardly knew anything about witnesses.
"His eye-catching trailer has plenty of unique features, as does his snappy two-tone car!"
For those of you who are wearing corrective lenses....and can't read the fine print.
It reminds me of the scripture...."Foxes have dens and birds have nests but the son of man has nowhere to lay his head."
Oh wait, no it doesn't.
Lisa
Snappy Class
do any of you remember this... when one subscribed to the awake or watchtower magazines, they would, back in south africa, come in a cardboard roll... kinda like the kitchen roll cardboard thingies... then later they would come folded in half lengthways.
well, where i am going with this is here... it became sort of a status symbol in the congo to have one of these rolled mags and later the folded ones and one would make a point of straightening them out (despite them being underlined to death and well used) to show the fact that you subscribe to the magazines!
did any of you do something similar?
Here in the states, they used to be folded in thirds and wrapped in a plain brown wrapper. Then they folded them in half.
Once I visited Bethel (friends in the Magazine dep't) and asked why the change? I was told that "all this time the Postal Service had been making an exception because they were cooperating with Jehovah's work. However, the volume was exploding and they were asked if they could please fold them in a standard measurement to assist the USPS in distribution of Jehovah's word."
Of course I bought into that shit lock, stock and barrel. Later in life I realized it was more than likely so they could meet some inane Postal Service Regulation for non-profit Bulk Mailings (cheap!) LOL.
Lisa
Media Mail should be reserved for worthwhile publications Class
ok, let's create a person with the iq of a genius - who belongs to mensa, double majored on a full scholarship to rutgers university,.
plays concert piano, and is really good in math.. now, add the fact that is she is alarming attractive....( ok, there was some surgery involved).
add the fact that she can actually climax ( no faking) with ease.
Call me sexist.....but I wouldn't put my dipstick in that crankcase.
She's been used more times than Carter had Liver Pills....
Lisa
today, i go over to a fast food place for lunch, and while i am walking to find a table with my food, a group of rowdy and unsupervised 10-12 year olds come tearing through the restaurnat, and one of them runs into me.
my food and drink goes flying, and i shoot daggers at the stupid brat.
this brat doesn't even apologize.
Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56
Right next to Gandhi and Nelson Mandela. LOL. For those of you who think I'm an elitist. Hilarious.
Lisa
Comfortable with my social barometer class
