Thanks Lars; I was concerned about not having sex & drugs in Paradise. You've taken quite a load off. But you failed to address RocknRoll. Can Paradise be perfect without tunes?
mrquik
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God will YET choose Israel ... In light of somethig I just read in another topic
by Bella15 insharing .... god will yet choose israelisaiah 14:1 says, "for the lord will have mercy on jacob, and will yet choose israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of jacob.".
many denominations hold to the view that god has forsaken the nation of israel forever.
they feel that because israel crucified their messiah, jesus christ, that god has taken away the promises he made to israel, and has applied those promises to the present day predominantly gentile church.
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Please Post Reasons For Not Believing The Witnesses Have The "Truth" Anymore
by minimus ini see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.
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mankkeli; you're a funny guy. I had 50 yrs. in. My father-in-law was of the anointed. He knew Rutherford personally. I served as an elder for 20 yrs. & through both families had numerous private conversations with anointed, DO's. CO's, pioneers, Bethelites, missionaries & the like. Everyone believed they were going to live forever. I watched them, one by one die off. They all would get a good laugh out of your interpretation.
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Does the Watchtower Society have the "Biggest Lie" ever published?
by Terry in.
the truth that leads to eternal life.
the truth that leads to eternal life was a bible study textbook published in 1968 and revised in 1981 (now out of print).. the 1990 edition of the guinness book of records included this book under its heading "highest printings".. according to the guinness book, by may 1987 it had reached 106,486,735 copies, in 116 languages.. .
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I always find it curious that an organization claiming divine direction having no problem buying into 1914. Does it sound reasonable that divine direction would lead millions of people from a date Russell initially reworked from Barbour & others? People who today would be labeled as apostates. And then top it off with his own take on the pyramids? Can you imagine God putting his stamp of approval on this mess? Sure... the light gets brighter & brighter, if you don't understand. Certainly the holy spirit would only deliver the truth. What happened here? Must be that the holy spirit deliberately lied or ......... all this is crap. I'm voting for the crap.
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Recent C.O. visit: Bad news re: U.S. English meeting attendance
by Open mind invisiting a nearby town during his thursday night service talk mentioned how poor meeting attendance is in the english-speaking u.s. congregations.
he said that when the gb reduced the weekly meetings from 3 to 2, there was a brief surge in meeting attendance percentages.
after a few months it began to slide and it hasn't stopped sliding.
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I warms my heart hearing that this aberation is running out of steam. I sincerely hope their children see through the lies & leave in droves.
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Does the Watchtower Society have the "Biggest Lie" ever published?
by Terry in.
the truth that leads to eternal life.
the truth that leads to eternal life was a bible study textbook published in 1968 and revised in 1981 (now out of print).. the 1990 edition of the guinness book of records included this book under its heading "highest printings".. according to the guinness book, by may 1987 it had reached 106,486,735 copies, in 116 languages.. .
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Ahh, how I remember 1975. The end was coming. I needed to straighten my life up. I did. Married the daughter of an anointed. Became an elder. Waited with everyone else as year after year passed by. 34 yrs. later I ended that marriage & married the love of my life. I actually was expecting to be reinstated. Mercifully one of the guys on my judicial committee really wanted to make an example of me. Dragged this out for 4 yrs. ( Thanks Frank M. ) Eventually I realized it was all smoke & mirrors. Called them up & told I wasn't coming back. Any lurkers on here from the Rochester, NY area will know me. Those of you who can get out, do so. Those with too much already invested, you have my sympathy. For the rest...Live Well....Enjoy Life.
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What Are Your Hobbies Now That You're Out?
by lilbluekitty ini've been getting really into cooking lately!
i do have most of the same hobbies i had before, (i've always been into art and reading and watching movies and travelling) only now i can do them whenever and don't have to worry about meetings getting in the way or people telling me i spend too much time with "recreation.
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I got my NY pistol permit & have a nice collection of handguns. Joined a hunting club. Go to the gym more often. Especially enjoy driving past the hall on Sunday mornings to go. I figure I'm spending my time more wisely working out than sitting on my ass for 2 hrs. Helped my mother-in-law decorate her house for Christmas. Went Christmas shopping with my new wife. Had 2 great Thanksgiving dinners with both families. Trying to catch up on all the things lost over 50 yrs in the cult.
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C.T. Russell and the Bible Students blessed and used by God?
by WontLeave inthere is no question that the first president of this corporation, c. t. russell, was used mightily by jehovah during the period when basic bible truths were being restored among gods true worshipers on earth.
we have great love for brother charles t. russell, for his works sake, and that we gladly acknowledge that the lord used him and greatly blessed his work - ka p239, jv p155, others (rutherford's speech announcing the adoption of the name jehovah's witnesses).
at their regular gatherings during the years 1870 to 1875, the religious thinking of these men underwent profound changes.
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Does it sound reasonable that God would let Russell steal his 1914 nonsense from people who today would be labeled as "Apostates"? Then let him embellish this with pagan ideas? Is that how Holy Spirit works? Any reasonable person would find this reprehensible. Yet the WBTS would have you believe God fully supported this. So he must have deceived Russell only to tell him the truth many years later. Of course, that was only after his prophesies failed. Good timing on God's part. Are any of you still buying this? How about the flip flop on issues of life & death. Does it sound reasonable to have the HS let you believe lies at the cost of countless of lives. Who's responsible for the destroyed lives? All of this monumentally fails the very first test of the true religion; to love one another. Those of you still in..... get out now.
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The WATCHTOWER isn't DECEITFUL , they are just IMPERFECT
by Minimommi ini recently started questioning my beliefs and i am not happy with what i found out.
i am married to a born in who admits that wtbs has some problems.
one of his favorite scriptures to quote is psalms 146:3 to "not put your trust in nobles", including the so called fds.
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Hi Mini; Here's the problem with the WT claiming to be imperfect & yet, at the same time, being the only organization led by Holy Spirit & sole channel for Jah himself. Where's this divine guidance when they really screw up? Shouldn't we expect Jah to at least keep his organization from life- changing decisions that are wrong? Could not Jah himself be held responsible? As such decisions violate the very essence of Christianity, love for one another, they are glaringly manmade. That being the case, isn't this just another case of the blind leading the blind. Could it not be argued that one is better off then making his own decisions? Anyone can claim divine guidance until proven wrong.
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What was your most DISTURBING event as an elder ? (Per T.O.S. no full names please).
by Balaamsass ini'll start the ball rolling.
dealing with kids in any type of judicial manner.
i would do everything i could to get parents to "deal with it-kindly" at home.
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Personally knew & worked with a pedophile from another hall. Always thought he was a little too friendly with the younger boys from his congregation, but assumed as everyone else that nothing perverted was going on. Only later did I learn that he did, in fact molest several boys from that congregation. Totally destroyed those boys' lives. The elders never called the authorities. He was never disfellowshipped.
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Are You Afraid To Die Alone?
by minimus ini know of someone that is concerned that she will be all alone when she dies.. are you afraid to die alone??
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I want to go peacefully while those in the car I'm driving are screaming in terror.