Both. Good as an elder. Bad as a sinner. (Then good as a sinner cause I ended up out)
mrquik
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Were You Ever Involved in A Judicial Committee Either As An Elder Or A "Sinner"?
by minimus inhow did it turn out?.
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Review and Comments on the New Elders Book
by MrDarkKnight ini recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the new elders manual.
my father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the service department told him it was on the internet so i eagerly looked for it and found it.
yes, i know it was a violation of copyright, but while at bethel i made copies of many technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the wts hypocrisy does not concern me.. i was appointed as an elder the year the pay attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so i have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books.
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mrquik
I was in for 50 years. Was an elder. Sat on committees with the CO & DO to get rid of "marginal" elders. Had DC parts. Father-in-law personally knew Rutherford. Got kicked out for divorce. Realized it was all a lie. First thing I did? Got a nice tattoo. Then I got another one. Always wanted a pistol, so I've applied for my permit. All New Yorkers need one of those. As for apologies, I think I'll wait for them to come from the GB first. Shouldn't have to wait long for that, should I?
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2 Tier Watchtower Publications- 1) For Regulars and 2) For Door-to-Door
by dreamgolfer infolks, i dont post much although i have been raised a jw all my life.. it has been awhile since this begain to bother me but i have to ask...what is the true story of why the wtbts created a 2nd edition for wt magazine placement purposes only?
i have been puzzled but can only suppose the reasons, costs, control, etc...but truly did they think that when ct russell started the magazine it was for all to read, not published for a "select few" and if you come regular to the meetings we'll get you the "real issue" with real articles?.
i know this has probably been discussed over and over, but please humor me and tell me how they can with a straight face "they" think this was "ok" to publish in this manner.. this alone smacks of hypocrasy, as it was not the intention of the faithful slave to do such a thing when jesus put control on earth in ct's hands, funny how that works out.
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mrquik
It is coming to the realization of many who have been in for decades that this is just as it was when it started; a manmade religion. It does not now nor ever had holy spirit, insight or love of the flock.
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For Lars...
by serenitynow! ini find your thoughts about being anointed/god revealing himself to you, interesting but i don't want to derail that other thread.
for those who don't know, i asked lars why god revealed himself to him, making him a believer because of having direct evidence, and why god hasn't done the same for me (and others).. lars responded (i added paragraphs for readibility):.
serenitynow: why you and not me?
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mrquik
Geez Lars, what's with "We hope..." crap. You're of the anointed class. What kind of spiritual crumbs are being handed down to you? You must be of the loser class. Hell, I hope a lot of things happen. That must put me at your level. What do you know... I AM AN ANOINTED ONE! Kneel before me you pidgeons!!
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So what do ya'll think about the recent new light?
by stillin9 inyou know, the thing they were talking about in the 2011 dc.
it was about how the "toes" of daniel's image no longer represent all the individual governments that have come around in human history.
and that the anglo-american world power is the last world power we'll see before the end of the system of things.
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mrquik
Of course the ten toes are pointing to foot fungus. As we all know, any good fungus treatment last 7 days. Ergo the end will come in either 7 days, weeks, months, years, decades or centuries. I'm just waitin for the noo light to let me know. Then I'll tell all of you. At the next DC. Next year. Maybe. If you're nice. And send money.
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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."
by InterestedOne inin the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
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mrquik
Mistakes will happen. OK lets follow that line of reasoning. Who's responsible for the mistakes? If a JW concedes that the GB out of human imperfection is responsible should their doctrine be followed? Could not any religion make the same claim? On the other hand, if the Holy Spirit allowed them to make mistakes which cost lives only to reverse that decision, would not Jehovah God himself be bloodguilty? The only reasonable answer is that they are not divinely inspired now nor ever have been. Their arrognant, aloof attitude is so similar to the Scribes & Pharisees. I hope someone, somewhere passes this on to them. As for the rest of us, I'm a firm believer that neither the last generation nor the true religion have arrived nor will arrive in our lifetime. Until it does; Live Well.......Enjoy Life.
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A Message for All Those Still in the WT Organization
by botchtowersociety inthis tidbit of good advice was found on another jw forum.. a message for all those still in the wt organization.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_szj6m-km.
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mrquik
I would have liked to view the clip, but I'm in the office & it's a sunny day in NY. I must get the hell out of here.
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My Husband gave an elder the "finger" yesterday
by Found Sheep indave the elder is actually a nice guy, he fixed the walls of our house, took six months!!!!.
anyway my ,never been a jw husband, was driving home and saw him and all the pain that i have gone through went through his head and he though what right did this guy have?
he spent six months comming to our house as he pleased and then to turn around and shunn my wife!!!!.
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mrquik
I now enjoy going up to those still in & in public say "Hi". I make sure I say it loud enough to attract the attention of people around me. Just watching them look at their feet & skulk away in front of others is so entertaining. Try it. It becomes very enpowering. We're not the ones who have anything to feel ashamed of, they are. I want them to feel the way they made me feel for years. Self righteous, hypocritical, arrogant gasbags. Just another false religion.
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what religion are you now?
by deservingone26 inits been a while since ive been on how is everyone doing?
but just curious after you left jehovahs witnesses did you look into other religions?
or are any of you currently involved in any other religions now?.
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mrquik
Still waiting for the true religion to show up. Until then, I'm sleeping in late on Sundays.
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The imperfections of the elder
by outsmartthesystem inoutsmart - you keep mentioning the imperfections of the elders....and how people need to overlook them because we are all imperfect and we need to learn what true humility is.....etc etc.
dj - if this is what you believe to be true, then you are mistaken, because even though jehovah's witnesses are directed by holy spirit, we have at times 'gotten it wrong.
dj - i can agree that jehovah's witnesses are god's mouthpiece today, that we do speak for god.
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mrquik
Interesting discussion DJ. For the record, I was a witness for 50 yrs. My father-in-law, born in the 1890's was of the anointed & personally was recommended by Rutherford. I was an elder for 15 yrs, gave district assembly parts & was on countless building projects. So I am quite familiar with the doctrine. You spin an interesting yarn, but in the end the the arguement of the GB being guided by Holy Spirit & still making serious doctrinal errors is a fatal flaw in their thinking. If guided by Holy Spirit, who do you hold responsible for the errors? If contrived my man, why follow them blindly? What happened to the law of love in regard to destroying countless number of lives while crying wolf for a century. How about the "Millions now Living Will Never Die"? Would Holy Spirit direct the GB to pen such a lie? Where's the public heartfelt apologies for the mistakes if they're human. Sorry DJ, they actually mirror the scribes & pharisees that Jesus so roundly condemned. You & the rest of the GC are the flock "skinned & thrown about". I too was as you are today. I know this will not affect your thinking in the least. It would not have me change my belief either. So for you, the rest of the GC & everyone reading I say: Live Well...Enjoy Life. ( Oh, by the way, the generation you think you're living in has not arrived yet.)