Apostates, cult members, agnostics, atheists & those of us that just don't give a crap; it doesn't matter. If I'm right, we all get a " get out of jail" card. If I'm wrong, it won't matter anyway. I can't lose. I'm just putting it in print in case I'm right so later you can all tell me how smart I was.........
mrquik
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For JW Lurkers
by mrquik inwelcome those jw's who lurk here with the purpose of affirming their religion.
this website was designed for all to express their opinions & beliefs openly.
many exjw's have pursued all different avenues of belief & you may take issue with those that stray too far from your personal ones.
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For JW Lurkers
by mrquik inwelcome those jw's who lurk here with the purpose of affirming their religion.
this website was designed for all to express their opinions & beliefs openly.
many exjw's have pursued all different avenues of belief & you may take issue with those that stray too far from your personal ones.
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mrquik
Welcome those JW's who lurk here with the purpose of affirming their religion. This website was designed for all to express their opinions & beliefs openly. Many exJW's have pursued all different avenues of belief & you may take issue with those that stray too far from your personal ones. As a true believer, you know that Jehovah is a god of reason so let's go with that common ground & reach a logical conclusion using your doctrine:
1914. Not one shred of historical evidence leading to this date as the beginning of the end. Russell plagiarized this date. Of all the signs Jesus gave as evidence of the last days " earthquakes in one place after another" has not materialized. Nor have any of the other signs. Jesus gave that prophesy in 33 CE. It was initially fulfilled in 70 CE. One generation. A period of time for those who heard the warning being able to benefit. Overlapping generations? I won't even dignify a response.
If 1914 is not the beginning; you're still living in the "Gentile Times". Which means, the one true religion isn't here. All who die now get a free pass to a resurrection. This also means the " one true religion isn't here. Which means you're not it. Which means you're actually a part of FALSE religion & Babylon the Great. This also means you, your children, your grandchildren will grow old & die.
The question of "Where would we go?" is flawed. The real question is "When". Which means you could have lived your life anyway you wanted. The sacrifices you have made to a false manmade religion are of no merit to God. Start the Great Awakening. To the adults still in, get out !!!!. Get your children out. Get your friends out. Go out & live life !!!
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How to shake up Jdubs...
by Rather Be the Hammer ini didn't attend the meeting last night, but my in husband came home and was quite shocked because there was a letter announcing that there will be no wt-library cd-rom any more, and..... no more calendar.. he said there was a lot of talking and noise when that was announced.. i didn't expect the calender to go, by the way.
and my husband sounded really concerned, talking about how society is cutting down.
i love it when he says with a tone of surprise in his voice: 'you were right, now they want us to do everyting digital, and throw out the printed stuff.
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mrquik
Smart move eliminating the CD rom. Who wants the rank & file actually doing research? It's much easier to control what they can get there hands on with online material. I think I'll hang on to my old CD's for a while....
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JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040
by Listener insorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here.. it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.
the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.
then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.
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You gotta love the GB's approach in keeping the R&F in line. By pushing it another 24 years in the future, it keeps the older ones in line by giving them this carrot. So while they say nothing, hoping against hope to survive, the younger R&F members figure they'll slide right in. Nice job.
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Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study
by Saltheart Foamfollower init looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
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mrquik
I'd love to have a shot again on the stage. Remember we used to "Make Sure of All Things". Get them thinking if you can. Good Luck.
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According to the Bible, GB is committing an unforgivable sin
by elbib in“the soul that does something deliberately [footnote says “with uplifted hand”] whether he is native or an alien resident, he speaking abusively of jehovah’s word, in that case that soul should be cut off from among his people.” (numbers 15:30).
according to this verse, acting with “high-handedness” and “speaking abusively of jehovah’s word” constitute disfellowshipping offence.
1) “high-handedness” is something that jws themselves silently experience from jb, hence require no witness or proof.
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The GB make the Scribes & Pharisees look like choir boys. It didn't work out well for them... Where's that burning Hell when you want it? -
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Order your VAA (Vast Apostate Army) stickers TODAY!
by Sugar Shane inzazzle has packets of 20 for just over $5 usd.
http://www.zazzle.com/vast_apostate_army_sticker-217905115862832820.
now, calls for better organization, or just organization period, have often been brought up on this site, by those whose lives have been affected by this cult.
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I had a JW stop to give me a Memorial invitation. After he got a cordial grilling I pointed him to "Crisis of Conscience" and JWfacts.com. These two sources had me out of the cult in a week after 50 yrs. in. -
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Shunning: is it still practiced?
by FinchAndWeston inare df, da and apostates still shunned?
are each treated differently?
i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...
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mrquik
I make no secret of being a staunch opposer to the cult. Still, I have encountered the entire gamut of reactions from Witnesses. My mother never shunned me or any of her children who were DF'd. I still have a number of friends that I see in public that greet me with a smile & handshake. I have others that will go out of their way to avoid me. When I was in, I never refused to talk to anyone, even as an elder. -
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Americans aren't allowed to grow their own food?
by purrpurr ini was recently told by an american i was chatting to online that in the usa people are not allowed to grow their own food.
she said that if you have a vegetable patch or something that the government will come along and bulldoze it?
she said that farmers are not allowed to grow food either and that the government bulldozes the crops if they grow?.
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mrquik
Someone's blowing smoke up your skirt...
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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience
by Lee Elder init is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
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mrquik
I cut the GB no slack. They, like every other manmade religion, know the damage they do. They know the suffering & pain caused by their actions. They fall in the same category as the Scribes & Pharisees. They have knowingly pissed off God directly like every other religious leader. I think that would be a bad thing.....