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  Walk Away

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no, not the joe walsh song.

  one of our last co visits, he was railing on the apostates who can't just shut up and be quiet.

  rabble rousers.

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  WTBS doesn't want to admit, they really ARE Hotel California. That would actually be a good title for a book about JWs...hahaha
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  Prediction: Expect a change in Study Edition distribution

  by baltar447 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after all the hoopla over the "mentally diseased" stuff, i'm making a prediction.

  i expect that the borg will stop distributing the koolaid wt online, at least to where anyone can download it.

  i expect that they will require the jws to create logins and passwords to access the study edition, somehow tying that that back to what congregataion you're in and maybe even an elder approving that you attend.

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  But that would mean at least one of the elders to be internet savvy enough to do it, not to mention having the internet connected, have a printer and plenty of paper to print the WT study editions. Would the elder be expected to pay for all that or could he be recompensed for his expenses?

  It's so much more cost effective to run it through their massive presses than to reimburse people individually for going to Kinkos. Yikes. That'll take a chunk out of their profits for sure. I just don't think they'll do it. When I toured Bethel last year and asked about why they don't just put everything online, they said it was because most of the world doesn't even have internet access.

  So, I don't see it going all digital any time soon.
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  {Sigh}, I could use a hug...

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my first two exams were this week.

  things didn't go well.

  the classes are tough -- math and science.

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  The term is not over, and it is early in your college career. So don't sweat it. You have lots of room for things not to be perfect without it completely falling apart. Make sure to connect with others, especially your advisors. They will be able to help you out a lot. If you are struggling, make sure you access any of the extra assistance available on your campus. And keep talking to your advisors. If things get really bad, and your financial aid is in jeopardy, they can help you figure out a way to get yourself out of it. And don't be afraid to take less classes as you are getting used to college. It is a big transition to college for someone of any age, but especially if you are an older, non-traditonal student. :-)

  Take a big deep breath. Enjoy your weekend. Rest, eat. And get back in the saddle on Monday.

  One or two tests does not a BA degree make (or break).

  bafh
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  The Watchtower Society Crossed a Line by Praising a "Slaughter of Apostates"

  by DT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just had to say it.

  i don't mean to detract from other threads on the topic.

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  Wouldn't they be surprised if all the references to the apostates, mentally diseased, or unbelievers refered to them? I have actually thought that is possible that the WT is part of the "weeds" in the "wheat and the weeds" parable. Wouldn't that be a hoot!
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  "Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi everyone.

  as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.

  cedars.

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  Would love to see something like this in the NY Times, or Wall Street Journal or any legitimate newspaper not owned by Rupert Murdock on the States side.
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  "Satan's Star" Re-examined

  by JWStruggle in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i put on my blog recently an article reviewing the evidence regarding whether the star of bethlehem was guided by god or satan.

  as we are well aware, this is a "pet point" of the witnesses and assists the wt viewpoint with regard to christmas and all things "pagan".. .

  http://www.jwstruggle.com/2011/09/satans-star-re-examined/.

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  I was in a class at a Catholic university where they said that the Magi were indeed looking for Jesus to be born when he was because Daniel when in exhile in Babylon had told them about the prophecies. The Magi, may have been astrologers or "spiritual men" but they were likely guided by one of God's people. And as pointed out above, they served a purpose and were well received. Even as Jews, I can't imagine Joseph and Mary, human parents of the Son of God, who were then guided by Angels welcoming a "pagan" worshiper with open arms if it were not part of "the plan" or "ok'd".

  ~bafh
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  Some snot nosed dubbie.....

  by watersprout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today carrot phoned really angry, one of his customers saw him and said ''oh carrot i haven't seen you in a while (carrot does window cleaning on a weekend to bump up wages.. gotta love being uneducated) i saw that younge man that used to work with you and i asked him if he had seen you and he told me that he was taking over your work, as you weren't doing it anymore''... carrot was like wtfrick!!!!

  he explained to his customer that ''no, i am still your window cleaner and i will be round next week''... anyway the customer was really angry as carrot is very well respected by his customer base.

  she said that she would be phoning this snot nosed dubbie and telling him she doesn't want him anywhere near her windows.... lol.

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  I hired a JW woman who was and still is a pioneer who embezzled from me. I fired her of course. But she lied about that and also about the embezzlement itself. She is one of those who asks the "brothers" for their opinion about everything in her life, is not a deep thinker and is as a result a True Believer. She does in fact have severe emotional issues and if she ever thought or found out that JWs were not "The Truth" would likely be one of those who would end up in lock up. bleh.

  ~ bafh
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  Some snot nosed dubbie.....

  by watersprout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today carrot phoned really angry, one of his customers saw him and said ''oh carrot i haven't seen you in a while (carrot does window cleaning on a weekend to bump up wages.. gotta love being uneducated) i saw that younge man that used to work with you and i asked him if he had seen you and he told me that he was taking over your work, as you weren't doing it anymore''... carrot was like wtfrick!!!!

  he explained to his customer that ''no, i am still your window cleaner and i will be round next week''... anyway the customer was really angry as carrot is very well respected by his customer base.

  she said that she would be phoning this snot nosed dubbie and telling him she doesn't want him anywhere near her windows.... lol.

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  Wow, that is some really twisted thinking - that just because they don't see you at the Hall, you must not be functioning at all. Good for Carrot to fight back. So inappropriate. JW social retardation really shines through again!
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  Do you still call it The Truth"?

  by mamamo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i spent sometime with a fellow ex jw yesterday.

  we had grown up in the same congregation and left within a few years ago.

  she referred to it as "the truth.

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  I do sometimes as a shorthand handle in conversation only with current JWs, and when it happens it's usually a slip of the tongue. Generally I try to be aware not to use it at all. When I do, it in no way reflects that I think it IS "The Truth."

  I'm fading, so I have to be careful to fit in as much as possilbe without going back.

  *edited "as a shorthand handle in conversation..."
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  Tips for Dealing with Controlling People when You can't say drop dead.

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering what tips/advice others have gathered from dealing with controlling people(a la jws) when one is enmeshed and can't terminate the relationship?

  how do you carve out and maintain boundaries when you must dance with the devil?.

  my rage scares me b/c i am reminded of my time in the jws..

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  "I was wondering what tips/advice others have gathered from dealing with controlling people(a la JWs) when one is enmeshed and can't terminate the relationship?"

  It seems to me that there are two separate things to be dealt with: 1) enmeshment 2) controlling behaviors

  So if you happen to be the person who is enmeshed, that is your issue, not that of the other person. If they display controling behaviors, that is their issue not yours, however you must figure out your boundaries and prepare your responses. This will be difficult if you are enmeshed. So, the enmeshment has to be dealt with first, and that is a personal to the one who is enmeshed.

  If this is a work situation, then you could change jobs. But you still need to deal with the issues at hand, otherwise they will re-surface elsewhere in your life.

  I only know this from personal experience. Find a good therapist and work on it together. I talk to mine every week. It's been several months, but I finally feel like some progress is getting made. At least I'm not contemplating killing myself all the time, which is a nice repreive.

  ~ bafh