So why is the WT obsessed with it? I would much rather read articles on actually applying Bible princples and have a real Christ-like personality.
Why don't they realize that how they fixate on "the end" is in direct conflict with that scripture?
so why is the wt obsessed with it?
i would much rather read articles on actually applying bible princples and have a real christ-like personality.
why don't they realize that how they fixate on "the end" is in direct conflict with that scripture?.
So why is the WT obsessed with it? I would much rather read articles on actually applying Bible princples and have a real Christ-like personality.
Why don't they realize that how they fixate on "the end" is in direct conflict with that scripture?
i'm curious, anyone else find the aawa.co website negative?
heavy handed on the emotional trauma posts, and light on the informational posts?
maybe it is just me but on top of the fact that there isn't much posting going on there, the topics were downers.
No, I haven't since I just looked at it today. I did tell them they need to speed up the website since the pages take forever to load. But it is not really my place to tell them what to post, I was just wondering if maybe there was something I was missing. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks it is a downer.
i'm curious, anyone else find the aawa.co website negative?
heavy handed on the emotional trauma posts, and light on the informational posts?
maybe it is just me but on top of the fact that there isn't much posting going on there, the topics were downers.
yup got a voice mail bright and early this morning "grumblecakes, we would like to schedule a shepherding call".. how do i get outta this?.
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thanks!!
Here is what worked for me: "I appreciate your concern, but no thank you." or " Thank you so much for your call. Things are really busy for me right now, and i have a lot going on. I'll let you know." Click.
I would not say anything about what you think, or say anything like "I refuse" because that just raises a red flag even more than flat out declining.
They didn't bother me again. Now, I was a single woman, with no previous "status" i.e. regular pioneer, auxillary, a husband they wanted to use.... so it worked for me because they don't really care about people like me in the first place.
Let us know how it goes.
bafh
please pm me if you live in or near portland or.
i'd like to have some discreet contact with people in the area.
bafh.
Please PM me if you live in or near Portland OR. I'd like to have some discreet contact with people in the area.
BAFH
sorry to keep dragging this on ... but this is really the only place to vent right?
so basically it's going on 4 months now that we've had zero meeting attendance, and for the last 2 months we have not reported any service time (prior to that, when our service group overseer would send a text asking for our time, we would report 4 hours each, for our "family study").
in my last post, i talked about how we were having a really difficult time beginning a new life outside the organization.
I faded and it took me about 3 years to feel like I'm making new friends outside. It is hard. I was trying to not be a witness, but not be worldly. Didn't work. Join Meetup, parent groups, volunteer....it takes time. One of the social "issues" of the JWs is that you have instant relationships - and they develop fast and deep - artifically. So when you are out and about with "regular" people - it can be hard to understand why everyone isn't instantly a "friend". Well, to tell you the truth, it is healthier for friendships to develop slowly and naturally rather than in an artificial setting like the JWs.
Don't give up. Find yourself, and others will find you.
BAFH
yeah, this has been a question that has been on my mind for a while, but how do one know if he has been "marked" by the congregation?
do they announce it?
i have expressed doubt last year about the org, but i still have responsibilities within the kh.
The best way to keep from being marked is to not share your personal life with anyone. If they have no information - they will make stuff up to fill in the blanks - but it won't be anything they have evidence of - it will be more along the lines of you being materialistic or too private or whatever. The more friendly you can be at the meetings without revealing personal information the more confused they will become and eventually, they may leave you alone all together. If you are always "busy" eventually they will stop trying to socialize with you.
Just my 2 cents.
bafh
so i've been reading many posts and threads of people's experiences leaving the jw fold.
i get the impression that many here were df'd or da'd due to apostasy.
is there anyone here that found out ttat after being df'd for a reason other than apostasy?
I have successfully faded. Although I was reproved more than once for moral issues - I was never df'd. I have had my doubts since I was a kid, and primarily got baptized to please my parents. I do not attend anything except the Memorial once a year. I do it because I think it was a command and because it keeps from rocking the boat too much. I have only had one discussion with my mom about why I don't attend and I told her that I just don't fit in. That was the end of that. So far so good. I do have one friend who, after this year's convention, feels compelled to have some sort of conversation with me. I told her that was fine. I feel like people just need to be heard, and she comes from nothing but genuine concern and love. I am carefully considering what I will say to her so that there is no need to find me dangerous in any way. It will be a little tricky, but I think I can do it.
bafh
i rarely watch fox news.
but i do read the drudge report every day.
on drudge, there are tons of newspaper links which i typically read from..
New York Times
Wall Street Journal
Mostly Brittish and Canadian Radio. It is the only way to get unbiased reports of what is happening inside the US.
in another thread on the board, someone talked about their friend being a sniper in the marines and being very angry at the gb with thoughts of revenge.
it made me wonder - what would happen to the jws if in some strange turn of events, all the gb died at the same time?
how would they carry on if their leadership was snuffed out?
I am curious where the leadership would come from and what line they would have to sell to justify what happened. How could they still claim God's protection and divine guidance if He would let something like that happen?