Posts by bafh

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

bafh

at the bottom of the page, it has the internal document code and the date:

S-66-E 5/13

I would read this as having been prepared and possibly delivered May 2013.

This is current. May they get what they deserve.

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My introduction and confession

by elderINewton in

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well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

bafh

Can you say more about this:

My child will go for higher education - per a letter written to the elders on how to do it. (when I leave, it will be just like I did)

What did the letter say about how to do it?

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Guardian article

by davidmitchell in

this lengthy article was in yesterday's 'guardian', a national uk newspaper.

(comments following thearticle are interesting!):.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

bafh

Stupidest thing I've ever seen a JW say:

“We’re very ahead with technology,” says O’Malley, pulling up today’s set scripture on his smartphone. Later, he says: “We’re like Google – we’ve mapped the world.”

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Beware the will use legal means against lies

by Listener in

i am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by anthony morris iii from jw broadcasting july 2015. i've posted much much more than necessary but i wanted to keep it in context.

the governing body has approved of my speaking of something that jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions.

and i might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone.

bafh

How about their smear campaign on the Catholics?

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MORE PROPAGANDA FROM THE CO!!

by DATA-DOG in

well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.

besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.

number one won't surprise you.

bafh

If the GB really believed that rubbish, they would still have book studies and other meetings in homes and would leave the money where the local congregations would be able to use it to care for themselves during the GT.

I don't know about that. They might really believe it - they just think it wont include them because they are a protected people. They may be in for a big surprise.

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AMIII about child abuse

by Gorbatchov in

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how great to see amiii stating @ tv.jw.org that the watchtower society was the first institution addressing child abuse in a time others were naive about this typical behavior of gay's.

the 1982 awake magazine is such a spectacular example about adressing the problem that they decided to erase it from their digital archives.

will amiii tell the judge that "watchtower" has not any control about him?

I think it is telling that they make it sound like the abuse is happening from people the kids don't know or for those on the outside. This says nothing about being careful about people you do know. The research shows that the majority of sexual abuse happens with someone the child knows and trusts not from some creepy green blob.

It is fine to reference articles, but how about explaining how that is handled in the congregation and making THOSE policies and procedures clear? They can't because it would increase rather than decrease their culpability in the eyes of anyone actually paying attention.

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WT Society Makes Light of Child Abuse Crimes by Portraying them as Cartoons

by flipper in

i commented on this on another thread- but i believe this has enough importance to create a thread about this situation in and of itself.

at the current district convention as you know the wt society released a " sophie & caleb " video allegedly warning parents about the dangers of child abuse.

they don't really use the words " child abuse " in the video - but just say if " someone tries to touch you in a manner you aren't comfortable with " and portray it as a cartoon !

bafh

I haven't been able to watch it yet - but do they address that the perpertrators are generally someone you know and trust, ie an elder, ms or any man in the congregation?

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"We Already Forgive Him" - What Does That Mean?

by cofty in

the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.

he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.

if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.

bafh

I've been thinking about this more and I have come to the conclusion that I think the Bible discusses two types of forgiveness:

Divine/Moral: Bestowed upon humans by God for sins they commit. This forgiveness is given to humans for the benefit of the individual receiving the forgiveness and is realized inside of the moral/spiritual structure outlined in the scriptures. Scriptural references: Law given to Israel, Acts 3:19, etc.

Human: Bestowed upon humans by other humans for real or imagined wrongs. This forgiveness is given to fellow humans for the benefit of the one doing the forgiving although it may lead to repentance, reconciliation a healed relationship. Scriptural references: Matt 5:39, Matt 18:22, etc.