Trust me: there are some real assholes on this forum. The rest of us have managed to leave those awful traits back in the bOrg where they belong.
Welcome back (and you've already apologized enough).
after the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.
i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.
after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.
Trust me: there are some real assholes on this forum. The rest of us have managed to leave those awful traits back in the bOrg where they belong.
Welcome back (and you've already apologized enough).
ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.
they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!
this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".
Mmm.
sorry, not buying it. My skeptic sensors are pinging off the scale.
contributions are confidential an anonymous. I was the accounts servant for 7 years, and unless a donation was made by check, you had no idea who it came from. And the accounts servant absolutely must keep info about whose names are on checks and their amount 100% confidential. Even an elder cannot ask you, "hey does so&so contribute? How much, usually?"
Secondly, they're made voluntarily. Never have I ever seen or heard an account like this where elders show up at a publisher's home & ask for money--much less even admit there was a shortage in the first place.
If this happened exactly as the OP claims--then they both need to inform the circuit overseer immediately because these elders are way out of line.
to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.
gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.
over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.
i propose that we make pintrest accounts and start openly challenging this crap.. .
seriously.... any suggestions?
this crap cannot be left unchallenged.
How is this not a violation of bOrg copyright/trademark? If I wanted to make a Tony the Tiger board game AND SELL IT, Kellogs would have every right to sue the hell out of me.
where are mike & kim now?
in my old congro the p.o's wife came 1st before anyone and i mean anyone!!.
karter..
cedars site hasn't had anything new since september when the new mid week meeting was disclosed.
wonder if the moles were caught.
No leaks only means there is nothing to leak. There are only one or two major things per year anyway.
One thing we can know with certainty is, the bOrg will NEVER stop the leaks. The Information Age is here and enough people on the inside are aware that something is wrong with this organization.
The leaks are here to stay. What we need to anticipate is the Borgs response to this. They'll have to scare the sheep away from leaked info somehow, and it will be clever & manipulative.
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
I disagree with the people who say you'll never get reinstated if you marry the other guy.
you also just admitted that you've never been to or posted on a website like this "ever." My advice? Here goes:
you have this other guy. Being in love with someone--a healthy, true love--will get you through this tough time in your life. You have each other and you share the same predicament. I know of 3 couples who got married while DF'ed and got reinstated within the year. It happens.
--BUT--
because you've only just begun reading "apostate" information, honey... let me explain something to you and read very carefully: prepare for your mind to be blown. You're going to discover so many things about this organization that you never knew--things they would never admit to--things they tell active JWs are "lies," but they're not lies! They're true. All of it, documented an archived online forever just waiting for curious doubters to look behind the curtain. You keep focusing on researching this cult and if you love this guy, do it now while you're both out and do it TOGETHER. Otherwise, you may miss your shot at him.
Once you you realize the corruption, deceit and evil behind JW leadership, you may not WANT to return.
and consider this: right now, you're already where many of US on this forum want to be, but we're trapped. For you, the hard part is over! You're out and you're free from their man made rules. So, if you're currently out & free, seriously, date whoever the hell you WANT to--their rules do not govern you anymore. It would be tragic to turn down the chance of having a perfect, loving soulmate simply due to social pressures from friends, family and a diabolical cult that ruins lives and feeds off of people's misery.
i hope the best for you and your DF'ed BF. Study study study about JW history, JW scandal, JW cover-ups and JW deceptions. Begin with jwfacts dot com and watch as many ex JW YouTube vids as you can. I recommend John Cedars.
you may want to educate yourself on science, critical thinking, application of reason, skepticism and atheism. Start there. Read stuff about evolution (whether you believe it or not) and try to prove it wrong. You'll learn very early that you had NO. IDEA. about what evolution actually is because the JW literature presents a strawman.
oh--and look in to "logical fallacies." Google that term, print off the list and grab any JW publication you can get your hands on and play a logical fallacy search game.
One final tip: read ex-member stories from OTHER religions. Reddit has sub forums for ex-mormons, ex-7th day, ex scientologists... watch TV shows & documentaries about people who've left a different religion and it's amazing, the similarities. All cults use the same tactics. Those people suffer the same thoughts and fears exjws do ("OMG what have I done? I'm gonna die at Armeggedon!" "Oh sure, the mormons are effed up, that's crazy, but... JWs have the truth! Right???"). On those forums, you'll see posts of letters, emails and text messages from friends, family & ranking people from their cult with the exact same guilt-tripping and manipulative tactics. ALL cults do this, young lady. Your are a victim of cult abuse and you need to hear that! Know it. Investigate it. A 19th Century New England PRINTING COMPANY is not god!!!!
please stay in touch with us and ENJOY your recent freedom. I mean it! Enjoy it.
sorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.
what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?
i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.
Sorry, but you lost me at "seams."
And it was Dec. 21, 2012. Not November 10, 2012.
so i haven't been to a midweek meeting in some time.... but i must attend this first clam (not to be confused with 'klan') meeting.
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want to take a look for curiosity sake then go back to never attending another midweek meeting again.