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  Anybody else consternated about Jesus?

  by runForever in

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  i've read the bible as many of you have.

  a lot of it makes sense.

  i just can't believe.

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  DarioKehl

  Read "Nailed."

  he never existed.
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  THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) JANUARY 2016

  by wifibandit in

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  2. bible

  pdf .

  this issue contains the study articles for february 29 to april 3, 2016.. what about the number of those partaking at the memorial?12, 13. why should we not worry about the number of those who eat the bread and drink the wine at the memorial?12 in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christs death.

  that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.

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  DarioKehl

  Hi.

  So there's going to be a mass disassociation in December 2016. Given all the other recent and scandalous developments, that makes sense!

  Now, we have this insulting January WT study article about how crazy newly anointed people must be.

  Guys. Let's make 2016 count. Why not drive a few towns over and attend memorial where no one will recognize you next spring (2016)? The only difference is, we ALL partake.

  Imagine a spike in memorial attendance, a spike in anointed followed by the mass DA campaign. Anyone else wanna show how much the TTATT folks can manipulate their data? Uhh? Whadya say?
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  Annulment of baptism for a minor?

  by Tornintwo in

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  i've seen references to baptism annulment on a few websites, does anyone know if there has ever been a successful annulment of a baptism?.

  eg.

  a minor claims they didn't understand a key wtbts teaching prior to baptism, is there any realistic chance of annulment?

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  DarioKehl

  Not a chance. They don't have new initiates go through 150 question interrogations for nothing. All they have to say is "how did they qualify after the heavy screening process if they 'didn't know' what they were gettin in to?"
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  November 2015 Awake

  by username in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. when i first looked at the cover of this issue of awake i was instantly struck on how creepy it looked.

  my first impressions were the picture looked almost masonic in nature.

  well, further investigation has led me to another picture that shows a grand masonic hall.

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  DarioKehl

  Jefferson was not a mason. And he simply removed all the supernatural/miracle stories from the New Testament. Jefferson was pretty much a skeptic; deist at most.

  Freemasons are not satan worshipping reptiles. It's easy to malign them and sexy to extrapolate NWO conspiracies. Beyond that, it's tempting to look for connections between masons and WTBS. But the real focus should be the harm done by modern day WT policies. Daydreaming about what "appears to be" can actually look a bit looney & paranoid.

  "appears to be" or "is consistent with" do not equal "is evidence of."
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  Does Anyone Still Believe in God?

  by LaurenM in

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  2. beliefs

  do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?

  even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.

  the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.

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  DarioKehl

  Hell no
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  Our CLAM meeting (vid): SELF-NEGATION is the first "treasure" from first meeting segment

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the first sample video of the clam meeting (christian life and ministry) at about 5 minutes, 50 seconds in, a brother (steven phillips) is assigned the first segment of the new meeting, "treasures from god's word.

  " ( http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwbrd_201510_5_video ).

  he shows just how sloppy the wts still is at trying to explain the deeper meanings of scriptures.

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  DarioKehl

  Fu***ing hell, I hate that. "...seems to indicate..."

  bloody f***in' hell.
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  Effect on youths of Bethel and construction cuts

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know quite a few youths (late teens to early twenties) who have the goal of full time service, as bethelites or international construction, so they're doing the required slog of pioneering in order to achieve this goal.

  this is a goal which has been excitedly set out for them the last few years or so at assemblies etc.

  now they see the cuts, surely they are going to be discouraged and disillusioned.

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  DarioKehl

  What puzzles me is, they just had one of those bethel recruit meetings during Saturday's lunch at the distr---oops, I mean, "regional" convention this summer. Like 2 months ago! So, either the "higher ups" knew in advance about these layoffs but held recruiter meetings anyway (in which case, they were lying to all those kids), or, something utterly devastating happened to their finances that was sudden, unforeseen and shocking enough to pull the plug on everything--since the summer convention.
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  My letter to Bethel about the flood

  by Cornbread in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

  it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

  that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

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  DarioKehl

  Setting: at the meeting with Haywood Jablomie and Holden McGoin after Cornbread entirely restates his dilemma in evidentiary findings that prove the flood account of Genesis impossible as described and interpreted by all religions including JWs---as were already well-presented in his ignored letter.

  E: "well, you know, Cornbread... The bible clearly warns us about satan's cunning traps--especially in these last days. The faithful and discreet slave have provided much finely prepared and timely spiritual food reminding us of this danger. The bible is not a science book (modest chuckle). And although it doesn't lay out the answers for everything observed in the natural world, these questions don't have anything to do with our salvation. We've been admonished time and time again to "put on the new personality" and to use "the sword, the shield and the breastplate or armor." Admitedly, that takes work. It's not easy (modest chuckle). But allowing Satan to creep in and work on those cracks in our shield of faith by developing a spirit of independant thinking can have bad consequences. Why--some have even allowed their runaway belief in science to cause them to (gasp) leave jeHOooovah's organization; yes, sadly, some young ones have even become... ATHEIST! While we're certainly not accusing YOU of that, you can surly see where your questions might be a concern for us. Tell us, cornbread, do YOU feel questioning such minutiae might be signs of developing and independent spirit?"

  C: (sits silently--cannot commit to answering either way. Blinks eyes. Thinks, "please get me out of this situation." Diarrhea churns)

  E2 (the other sidekick elder): "cornbread, we're here because we LOVE you and we want to see you in the new system. We're here to help. If you have issues reconciling doubts because of "apparent conflicts" found in the bible, jehovah has led the slave to commission US to help you; to help you reason your way back into the fold by cultivating faith."

  E: "we can certainly assist you with that, cornbread. Tell us: would you be agreeable to having a bible study once a week with one or two spiritually qualified men? The slave has really gone to great lengths recently to bring those who have drawn away BACK to jehovah. No one's going to judge you, pressure you or make unreasonable demands."

  E2: "you don't have to decide this instant (nervous chuckle). But think about it; give it serious, prayerful thought. In the meantime, we've pulled a few relevant articles from our new web site, JW dot org---you know we're online now, have you heard? Anyway, we selected some articles for you to consider. This one hear talks about the dangers of independant thinking, followed by a great article reminding us how "it does not belong to earthling man even to direct his step." I mean--pffff!---scientist? Who are THEY? Amiright??? (Laughs, nudges E. E joins in laughter) They're just imperfect men who can't even put one foot in the other without their Grand Creator! So would it not be foolish to put ALL your TRUST in EARTHLING MAN??? And then there's a great Awake article featuring a former biologist who learned the truth after YEARS of believing science. It's a very encouraging experience."

  C: "thanks."

  (dad looks on with hope and gives the elders a 'job well done' glance)
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  My letter to Bethel about the flood

  by Cornbread in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

  it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

  that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

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  DarioKehl

  Setting: sometime in the next 30 days, when your phone rings.

  (brrrrrrINNNG... brrrrrINNNG...)

  Cornbread (C): "hello. This is cornbread."

  Local Elder (E): "oh! Uhhh... y-yes, cornbread... Hello. This is Haywood Jablomie from the Morningwood Congregation... how are you?"

  C: "...fine" (nerves begin rattling)

  E: "yes, very well... HEY, I'm just calling you in regard to something that was recently brought to the attention of the elder body here concerning a letter? you sent? to the society??? Would you know anything about that?"

  C: "yeah, I sent a letter to them."

  E: "oh, ok. Well... We wanted to maybe set up a time in the next day or two when we could meet with you to address some of the concerns you voiced in your letter. What evening this week would be best for you?"
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  Question: What would it take to get the BORG'S tax exempt status REVOKED?

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've always wondered about this.

  i've always felt the main reason the borg made publishers do time slips/field service reports was to show that they are doing a community service to justify their tax exempt status.

  we all know about their money grabs with the kh build scams, their selling off millions of dollars in real estate, etc.

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  DarioKehl

  If it ever does happen, you know what they'll say...

  The wild beast eats the harlot? Yeah. It'll just make the R&F more resolute.