Welcome Uncle, stick around you will find lots of nice people to discuss your doubts with.
Leslie
i stumbled across this forum today as i was looking for information online as it relates to johnny carson and the whole john denver thing that was spread around years ago.
it's no surprise that i cant find a single thing on it on the web as i always thought it was an urban legend.
just angers me that things like that spread around and so many people just accept it as truth because a brother or sister told it to them.
Welcome Uncle, stick around you will find lots of nice people to discuss your doubts with.
Leslie
in case all of you don't know, i'm married to a wonderful jw man, for a few years now.
he was reinstated ater we were married.
anyway, i have children from a previous marriage and at times disagree with my husband on discipline, how things are explained, etc.
Unfortunately you have run into the JW's belief of male privilege. They are really into headship, authority etc. It is the main reason of why I left with my three daughters. Their father is still an active JW elder in a local KH. I was bound and determined that no one was going to decide for my girls what they could do in their lives. By the time my oldest was 12 their father was already deciding who in the cong would make a good husband for her. I flipped to say the least. Now my two oldest girls are in college and my youngest in HS. I can tell you that they will decide for themeselves what their lives will be enriched with.
You need to be totally involved with the disipline of your children. If you are not they will think that the way they are treated is normal. What you said to your husband was accurate. A true healthy relationship is a partnership not a dictatorship. You can have a healthy relationship with your JW husband, but it has to based on respect. You need to sit down with him and tell him that. Don't hold all your pain inside or you will begin to hold grudges, and become consumed with anger. If indeed he explains that this is his religon you need to remind him that when he married you he was well aware that you were not a JW, and do not ascribe to their beliefs. Find a way to compromise so that it will not come between you and break down your marriage. Good Luck!!!!!!
Leslie
when i was a devout jw i would literally look at "apostates" picketing the assemblies and want to spit at them because i hated them that much and felt that they were of satan.
i remember one time i saw an "apostate" walking from the assembly and a friend of mine an myself were actually talking about confronting him and telling him off.
i just cannot believe how much i hated "apostates" when i was a jw.
I used to say "I can understand that people can be weak and get DF'd, but APOSTATES!!!! How could anyone that knew the "truth" become an apostate." Guess I found out and am happy just being an apostate.
Leslie
so i am watching american idol(yes i have no life) and one of the winners came out screaming and holding what looked like a nw translation - black cover.
can anybody with a tivo confirm?
it was like just before the horrible guy in the purple shirt came on.
hmmm maybe she is holding some of the WMD that Bush has been looking for.
Leslie
is it realy the worst thing one can go through?
are you afraid of it??
has being disfellowshipped actually turned into a "blessing"?
I have to say for myself it bothered me at first, but now that I have matured and put aside the guilt.I kinda like it. I think it is funny when I see a JW they have that constipated look. You know the pursed lips etc. I always say hi and they look like they are going to have a heart attack
Leslie
it was my experience during my 13 yrs as a jw that congregations usually had a social clique.
in other words, there would be a group of people in a congregation that would only associate (and sometimes only go out on field service too) with people within that social clique.
if you were in the clique, fine.
JW's are very position minded. Pioneers hang out with each other as do Elders and MS. With all the admonition that they receive about "good spiritual association" it is bound to make cliques etc. How different the examples in the Bible where Jesus talked about helping those spiritual ill..after all those that were healthy did not need him. So in the JW religion if you are "spiritual weak" you get left out where in reality that is where they should be focused. And really who defines who is "spirtiually weak" that always made me laugh. Is it not the cliques themselves that make up who is weak and who is strong. No one really knows what is in the heart of anyone. Position is not the true definition of "spirtually strong" many of us know individuals that have positions with no heart involved in it.
Leslie
did anyone actually enjoy singing the kingdom melodies at the hall?
some of them were fun to sing, some of them were corny.
my brother use to sing them loud but without any sound coming out of his mouth.
I used to like God is a refuge...I think that is the name..geeee it is funny how fast you forget. The best part of singing is that you knew it was almost over.
Leslie
"all of the warnings we have today indicate that a major strike ?
something more horrible than anything we've seen before ?
is all but inevitable," said yossef bodansky, former director of the u.s. congressional task force on terrorism and unconventional warfare, in an interview yesterday with the jerusalem post.
I happen to sit on a Disaster Commission Council for our county in NYS. All the different experts from FEMA, SEMO etc, believe that it is not if it will happen again, really it is When. That is what we should be preparing for.
Leslie
i was at university the other night in the computer lab, cruising this site, well a fellow classmate who has been in my class since sept and we have become friends, walks past, looks at the site i am on and says, "i noticed you are on a jw site, did you know i am a jw, are you one?".
i was shocked.
i turned to him and let loose,.
Wow Jez I am impressed. You did just awesome. Maybe you planted some "seeds of truth."
Leslie
name is actually gator.
i am not nor was i ever a jw.
i know several who were, and do understand some of the issues and such behind that religious "sect".
Welcome gator glad to have you here.
Leslie