Apparently, they missed the entire Chapter 1 of Galations.
The assertions are ludicrous.
Posts by Lieu
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14June 15 Study WT - Faithful Steward and its GB
by bud2114 infrom what i can tell, there was some discussion out here on this article about a month ago, but at that time few folks had their copy to look at (we just received it last week at our hall).
now that most jw's have their copy, there has been a lot of discussion about it - at least here, that is.
as was mentioned already, this is definitely a follow up to the 5/1/07 qfr "when does the callling of christians to a heavenly hope cease?
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"You Will Die Of Swine Flu Really Soon"
by inkling infrom: http://www.enduringvision.com/news/us_042809.php.
as more and more cases of swine flu are confirmed across the united states, experts throughout the nation have become increasingly certain that most likely, you will die from it really soon.. "swine flu has the potential to become a pandemic," said dr. alan lepow, an infectious disease specialist at the cleveland clinic, implying that eventually, we will all get the swine flu and then die.. what is swine flu?
nobody seems to be able to provide an answer that doesn't take expensive recording time to explain, but many experts seem to agree on one thing: swine flu is similar to the normal human influenza virus, except that instead of causing a runny nose and muscle aches, it causes painful, horrifying death.. one official from the center for disease control (cdc) likened the flu to a [zombie] "virus", something that will spread insidiously and relentlessly, until you'll try and seek help in a hospital, but the hospital will be dark and scary, because everyone inside will be dead from swine flu.. "for example," said jeffrey spalding, a man who was standing outside the cdc, "a child contracts swine flu, and passes it on to another child by attacking and biting the other child.
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Lieu
I take it some folks here did not notice the article was a funny?
I for one, thought it was hilarious.
I'm on my way to CA this summer ... that is if they'll let anyone coming from the US in.
No sé.
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Were YOU A "Good" Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus inwhen you look back, were you considered a "good" jw?
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Lieu
Kinda. Then, I never pretended to be someone I was not. [Who needs all that false pretense and sneaking around?]
They always seemed like they were scared of me.
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Did being raised a JW retard your career or cost you BIG $$$?
by The Berean ini was offered a journalism scholarship at ohio state ... mom made me turn it down cause "armageddonwas near"... ended up a janitor!
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Lieu
Kinda and No.
I think in the beginning it posed problems communicating with normal human beings. I got over that one in no time.
I went to college in the 80's, no one said anything.
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So many ex-Bethelites here...
by jws injust thinking back over some of the many, many posts here.
it seems there are a fair share of ex-bethelites here or ex-branch office workers.. what percentage of jws actually go to bethel or a branch office?
it's gotta be under 1%.
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Lieu
I always thought the opposite. Bethel folks were late teens whose fathers were Elders or MS ... nothing to do with "gung-ho".
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Greatest Lesson You Have Learned from Your WT Experience?
by cameo-d in.
what will prevent you from being deceived again and making the same mistake?.
what is your criteria now for weighing truth vs "enlightened-sounding" fiction?.
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Lieu
Even if you know the world is round, say its flat unless you want to be labeled a 'heretic'.
Slips of paper are more important than humans.
Labels can be used for people as well as food stuffs.
On a positive note, I learned how to truly treat and help other people simply by doing the opposite of the WT.
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Timing Christ's Presence
by Ultimate Reality instartfragment.
obviously, this is an ongoing discussion.
in a past post (which was so popular, there were 0 replies) i mentioned a book by james stewart russell: the parousia: the new testament doctrine of our lord's second coming, which was written in 1878. the book is a discussion of the new testament as it relates to the subject of the parousia or christ's presence.
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Lieu
That's way too long to bother reading. Long posts (excluding personal experiences) remind me of someone trying to "make time".
The problem is the poor translations of the NT from the initial Greek, plus some writings have been omitted depending on denomination, and a WT will do nothing but confuse since scriptures are used way out of context.
No one knows where we are in the stream of time; somewhere between extreme pollution and self extermination.
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How to PROFIT from Watchtower fearmongering
by Nathan Natas inmy association with the jws began in the late 1950's.
i participated in the pre-1975 hysteria just as i was instructed to do.
i knew people who sold their businesses and homes and calculated just how much they could spend each month to support themselves in the full-time ministry until their liberation date of october 1975.. (after all, you wouldn't want to run out of money in august 1975 - what would you do for two months?).
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Lieu
I'm so sick of JWs and their "dates". Leave that s**t alone!
Buy some stock, listed on NASDAC, if you are intersted in owning a piece of the WTBS.
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The Two Masters
by cameo-d injesus or jehovah?.
jehovah often provided materially for his people through the spoils of war.. jesus, on the other hand, seemed to promote being carefree and non-materialistic.. .
jesus said he and the father were of one accord, but even so, he was kicked out of the synagogues.. .
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Lieu
Its not really a change in personality, its more of "I'm sick of your crap and destruction, you rotten humans". "I tried to show you how to behave to please my dad but you just refuse to listen."
Mankind was shown a better and more peaceful way ... but we just kill and kill ... subjugate and kill some more. Pollute and kill. Certain types of folks ( the ones that like to kill) just have to go if there were to ever be a real peace on this crazy planet.
Notice how he became hostile with the money changers inside the Temple? Notice the temple was split at its foundation at his death? Notice how Israelis today do not have the Arc or a Temple?
My opinion, of course.
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The Two Masters
by cameo-d injesus or jehovah?.
jehovah often provided materially for his people through the spoils of war.. jesus, on the other hand, seemed to promote being carefree and non-materialistic.. .
jesus said he and the father were of one accord, but even so, he was kicked out of the synagogues.. .
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Lieu
Jesus cursed that tree for not giving some shade and the tree died.
No they are not the same person, IMO. Its about judgement and righteousness, according to the Bible.
It is the Day of Jah's vindication but Jesus (along with the angels) is the one who comes to exact justice on Jah's behalf, he is the one with the sharp sword in his mouth. The Son of Man...King of Kings. He is the Lamb who is found fit to open the scroll. He leads the battle with the troops (the angels).
It would be like your son avenging your good name but only on the people who spoil it.
He's coming to exact righteous indignation, according to scripture. He & the angels are going to KILL wicked mankind for the sake of good mankind. He's going to destroy the enemies of his Father. (They call for the birds in the book of Rev to come feast on the bodies.)
I'm missing why you do not understand this.
Rev is quite clear about who is who and who is doing what; people have their chance to do right or wrong.
