they claim that all of their beliefs and actions are based on the scriptures, so how can they justify 9,10 year olds, or even early teens getting baptized?
jesus was 29, john the baptist was the same age or a year older.
all of the others i recall from the ot & nt were adults.
They stopped believing in Jesus and baptism in the spirit. So now, people get baptised into the org and God (Jah) has even disappeared from the picture. "God's spirit annointed org"??? What the hell is that for a baptism?
The baptism ceremony is disgusting in terms of Christianity.
[If you want a real Biblical Christian baptism, go see the Baptists.] Get yourself dipped the real way.
alright, ive posted on here a couple of times, but let me tell you a little bit more about myself.
i have been doubting for some time, and fading for some time.
i've not been to a meeting for some months.
I just got two tats ... one of which is a smurf.
melbourne australia district convention last saturday this jackass pioneer/elder gets on stage and relates how he and his wife have served where the need is great in many congs hoping for the "privledge" of being a c.o couple....he expressed "disapointment and discouragement" when he was not appointed....he moved to a new assignment in the chinese cong.. the speaker thanks him for his "honesty" but i was thinking what are his motives for serving his brothers?
is this a good example for pioneering?
must be a reason his ambition...... sorry i mean, goals could not be reached.
I see it as a man who is pioneering specifically for the purpose of gaining a 'higher' position. He's not doing it for "others" or out of concern for those in the 'world'.
Its bad heart syndrome in my book. A what can I get out of this for myself type of thing not a what can I give thing.
in paul's letter to the phillipans, typically dated 50-60 ad, paul says:.
your attitude should be the same as christ.
you being the very nature(form) of god, did not consider equality to god as something to be held on to (grasped), but made himself nothing, thaking the very nature of a servant being made in human likeness.
.... and he was praying to himself and raised himself up too?
Schitzo or Gremlin?
my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.
is this true and is it the best?
are there scholars who disagree?.
TD,
One also haas to watch those 17-18th Century translations. A problem arises when we find that men of those times fancied the 'poetic' as a sign of high breeding and scholarship. This lent to all the occasions of pluperfect - present subjuntives being used in translations.
I'll wait until someone finds "the oldest" and translates that to English [which of course will be modern Eng]. Until then, I'll use whichever version I happen to have handy.
my jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.
is this true and is it the best?
are there scholars who disagree?.
when we find the actual originals, we can THEN prove which is the best Bible translation, and NOT before
This is my thought on the matter. Until then, they're all in the same inacurracy boat; one no better than the next.
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".
i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.
it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.
Thanks a million for this site.
my dad used this one alot: it compared raising a child to holding a spring.
if you let go too soon the spring will fly off in an uncontrolled direction.
if you hold it too long you will wear your hand out and the spring will be no good.
No one's mentioned the one about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...
.... and "tacking".
spain branch will send bethelites to the following bethel homes: guatemala, honduras, brasil, south africa and united kingdom.
other bethelites, will go to near their original congregations with special piooner priviledge..., to receive suppor from their families and friends.
in the moment, 70 will be fire, 40 to special pioneer y 30 regular pioneer.
It looks like a food & weather preference to me.
are you afraid of the biblical god?.
are you afraid of a god that can read your mind.
if so have you ever considered this a form of mind control?
God, No. God is love.
Rookie cops? Yes.
