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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  Lieu

  Wow! Amazing how certain people here can't focus to the point their OT rantings ruin a perfectly good thread. Why don't y'all jacking this thread go create your own thread and get off of this one?

  Now staying on topic this is my choice:

  1 Timothy 6: [Bible in Basic English]

  3 If any man gives different teaching, not in agreement with the true words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the teaching which is in agreement with true religion,
  4 He has an over-high opinion of himself; being without knowledge, having only an unhealthy love of questionings and wars of words, from which come envy, fighting, cruel words, evil thoughts,
  5 Bitter talk of men who, being evil in mind and dead to what is true, take the faith to be a way of making profit.
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  What Are You Reading?

  by zoiks in

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  2. friends

  ok, here's my current list:.

  i just finished the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins, and am almost finished crisis of conscience by...some guy.. currently in hand, i have:.

  the power of myth, joseph campbell and bill moyers.

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  The controversial Open Veins of Latin America - Eduardo Galeano .... 'cause I want to see what all the hoopla was about.
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  Your Current thoughts

  by zzaphod in

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  if you had to sum up your current thoughts on the wts/jw experience what word/phrase would you use?.

  anger?.

  confusion?.

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  Lieu

  Contrived.
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  What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

  by theMadJW in

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  i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.

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  Lieu

  Unfortunately, your replies above show what is mostly wrong with JW's: you don't emulate Jesus in how you treat others.

  Ah, but lest we forget Jesus & Love don't exist [in the sense that they are supposed to] ... only death & smurfs
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  What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

  by theMadJW in

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  i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.

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  Lieu

  • Can't believe in an invisible return since it isn't scriptual in any way shape or form
  • Don't agree with heirarchies and 'kept men' who have never had to pay rent
  • Don't like pretense - KHs are filled with false personalities
  • Not interested in constant fearmongering - from Smurfs to the Big A
  • Won't put up with out of context scripture reading
  • Too clingy, too burdensome, and way too controlling
  • Not a very charitable org, not even to their own in need most of the time

  Not a part of any group.

  Oh, I need to add the most important thing: Jesus got the boot but pops up once a year in a ceremony devoid of any joy or meaning.
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  Did You Ever Regard Jehovah As Your "Friend"?

  by minimus in

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  i never felt that "friendship".

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  Did You Ever Regard Jehovah As Your "Friend"?

  Yep. Still do.
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  Watchtower Says Other Sheep Will Be God's Sons Only At End of 1,000 Yr. Reign

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  but.....it's ok to still refer to jehovah as "our father" although those of the other sheep cannot be his "sons".

  i'm confused.

  how can you have a father but still (at this time) not be considered the father's child?.

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  Lieu

  Those crazies don't even have the basis of understanding to notice Jesus' "other sheep" reference was about the gentile nations who also needed to be brought into the flock.

  There's only one flock.

  Ignore those misled blind men.
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  Does the GB get a salary?

  by myownlife in

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  2. scandals

  i was asked this question by a co-worker who is also a former witless....anyone know the answer?.

  i am also wondering if any salary is paid to the witless worker bees other than room/board?

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  Lieu

  Yeah, keep not going to college and working those low wage jobs struggling to pay bills while they live it up bill & debt free off your donations.

  As for the rest of the money, well, shareholder dividends. Ya'll do know that, yes? They used to put the annual shareholders meeting notice in an Awake ... don't know if they still do since most of the shareholders aren't JWs.
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  easier to leave christendom or wts?

  by diamondiiz in

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  this is mostly for those that were recruited by jws from another christian religion.

  i was brought up a rc and converted to wts religion when i was young and naive.

  when i switched over to wts i felt some anger towards my former religion but it was nothing compare to what i feel towards wts.

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  I just walked out of the WT meeting one day and never went back. Of course, I was single w/no kids too which made it quite easy.

  One time tho' one of the new youngie type elders came by to have an encoura- talkie along with a sister (guess they were out making RVs in the area or whatever). Guy sat so far across the room that I yelled, "Do I offend?" When he looked as though he couldn't comprehend, I said, "Brother I'd send the question by carrier pigeon but I think they all died in the war".

  The sister almost fell out of the chair laughing and the elder youngin' turned beet red; which was interesting since he was a med brown complexioned AA guy.

  Weird, he never came back.

  Anywho, people with whole families in the JWs is a huge difference from people whose whole families are say Catholics. (Pentacostles are like JWs tho'.) Catholics really don't care and they'll still associate as long as you are family. Basically, Catholics (nowadays) they'll just try and be nice to win you back whereas JWs treat you like a dog (ie. Medieval Catholisism behavior), family or not, and think this somehow will win people back.
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  whoa some of russells teachings where more correct than current JW teachings please comment

  by recovering in

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  2. beliefs

  i was on wikipedia looking up some of charles taze russells teachings, look at what i found.

  whoa some of russells teachings where more correct than current jw teachings .

  please discuss.

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  Lieu

  I used to have the actual Studies in the Scriptures Volumes ... man was that stuff wierd and full of astrology/numerology.

  Russel was like a mix of Millerite & Mayan, however, I don't fault him with trying to understand the Bible, I fault him with doing something he nor anyone else has any business trying to do - something the Bible says belongs only for God to know.

  That very thing the WTS today can't let go of - stealing from Jah, displacing Jesus, identity theft, etc.

  The God of the Bible can't have a dayum "tree" and now he can't have a dayum "day" to himself.

  When is all this theft going to end?