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  Bible History

  by bitsnbobs in

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  2. bible

  hi all,i left the org in the late 90s.

  not because of beliefs or the 1914/generation fiasco.

  just thoughtlessness, hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

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  Lieu

  Lorenzo, me thinks you have that reversed.

  It's the woman's seed that crushes the head while the serpent's seed goes after the heels. The woman is not Satan, nor an analogy of him.

  He's talking to "the serpent" in verse 14, 15, (ie "thy & thou").

  Genesis 3:13-15 KJVS

  And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

  [14] And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: [15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

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  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  Wow! Just wow! And I thought my mother's rather large JW.Org button shaped coat pin was weird. (Ps. She wears it everywhere)
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  Most brain dead sit com of all time

  by zeb in

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  ok..before you start no i don't watch them but my family have a never ending need to watch "how i met your mother" and endless repeats of "friends" .

  canned laughter, one liners with pause so those of lesser brain can catch the 'humour'.

  i have to put up with the sound track.. thank god for the abc classic fm-radio.

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  The only modern one I like is The King of Queens. The rest have been and are garbage.
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  Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

  by Oubliette in

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  2. beliefs

  data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

  great question and intriguing hypothesis.

  lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

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  It's quite obvious when someone has a mental disorder ... and we don't need to torture dogs to figure it out.
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  Two fingers up because they are so holy

  by oppostate in

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  2. beliefs

  the two-finger-i'm-so-holy hand gesture is an old mannerism of catholic and orthodox hierarchs.

  it's all over their catholic paintings and scultures, and greek orthodox icons of, jesus too.

  ................................... here then, the holy gesture is adapted for use even by our very own gb members who are trying to appear most holy themselves.. .

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  Lieu

  I thought it was a gang sign, go figure 😮
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  Conversation with ultra dub relative. Pure quality this one

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if any one has been taking note of my posts, it could be said that i often mention conversations i have had with dubbies.

  in some ways not been dfed has allowed me to gain some real in sight into how they think and their justification for things.

  the following is a conversation i just had with an ultra super dub relative, and to be honest i don't know weather i should be laughing or crying over it.. relative: the rc this year is going to be held in the assembly hall.

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  Lieu

  70 AD "The end is neigh"

  100 AD "The end is neigh"

  1000 AD "The end is neigh"

  1890 AD "The end is neigh"

  1975 AD "The end is neigh"

  Today AD "The end is neigh"

  I wonder what Paul would think as this world has gone on for 2000 yrs since ...

  Also, we're people sitting too far away from each other or something?
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  My sister is being harassed by the elders

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

  this happened more than one year ago.

  i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

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  Lol @ John Aquila ... Er, I don't think Peruvian police dismember people for money like in Mexico; different leagues. They'd much rather toss someone alive into the interior Amazon for a real life episode of Naked and Afraid.

  But seriously, she should definitely file a police report for harassment. If need be, maybe a few neighbors who witnessed the bad yelling behavior could give statements in support. Then write a letter stating she's looking for a new congregation. [I'd write it in Quechua because I'm an asshole.]

  Make a copy of the letter for the police to go into the complaint file, and one for the Branch.

  Apparently, they missed the latest Peruvian Law where one cannot even cat call at women walking the streets? 12 yr punishments. Yelling at her in the street is jailable ... and who wants to go to a Peruvian prison?
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  So I clicked on the Mormon come-on advertisement to "Come chat about Jesus Christ"

  by oppostate in

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  2. beliefs

  so i clicked on the mormon come-on advertisement on the top, the right side and the bottom of the jwd page that invited me to "come chat about jesus christ".. i started a chat with brook and taiza and asked them why the subtitle of the book of mormon changed from "another gospel of jesus christ" to "another testament of jesus christ".. brooke told me it hadn't so i googled it and told them there's plenty of websites that refer to it that way and i had a very old copy with that subtitle on it.. so taiza says it's probably a copy by some break off group and not from them.. i told her the inside said from the "lds".

  so they left the chat.. so i figured maybe there's a technical glitch and i shouldn't assume they just dropped me.. so i log on again and give my last name instead of my first name this time.. and hellen and catherine log into the channel.. i ask them again about the title change and they drop off the chat.. so i figured twice is very unlikely that they had a glitch, and i'm pretty sure they dropped me because they didn't like my question.. one more time, i'll give them one more try.. so i log on again, with my middle name this time.. brooke and jayne log on.. i type that i'd been chatting previously with brooke.. she types back that she's a different brooke.. so jayne starts asking if i read the book of mormon.. i say yes and i have a question about it.. so i ask my question about the "another gospel" to 'another testament" change.. she says that she does not recall ever hearing about that and what do i like about the book of mormon.. i then ask her about the "gospel" paul wrote about in corinthians.. she says it's the same as in the book of mormon.. i ask back that if the gospel is the "same" why call it another???

  and i quote her galatians 1:8.. she says that it does not apply to the book of mormon since it is not different from the bible so therefore, it is not another good news.. but that is the subtitle of the book isn't it.. so she sends me a link to a two minute video by the lds telling of the finding of the tablets and the transcription from reformed egyptian to english by joseph smith.. i started questioning whether reformed egyptian was a real language.

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  What's Maroni doing writing in Egyptian cuneiform anyway? Was he illiterate in English?
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  What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

  the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

  how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

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  Scriptures taken way out of context. Annoying.

  No Jesus. The GB is Jesus. They killed him off to take his inheritance.

  Org worship. The Org is God. Preposterous!

  If I were God (all proud about my kid's success) and had told everyone to go through him, take comfort in him, ask for things in his name ... and you completely ignored him; but not content with just you, you compel others to do the same.

  I'd be one pissed off dad.

  Oh, and meetings were soooo mind numbingly boring.
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  JW terminology

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  paradise earth after god kills all non jws.

  paradise earth after god kills all non jws.

  paradise earth after god kills all non jws.

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  Running Ahead of the Organization - You know stuff before the GB knows stuff. A no-no. Never mention you know stuff that they don't know.