every religious group know the story of adam & eve.
for me, i understood what they did was wrong but i never felt they were bad people and considering that they never murdered anyone and seemed to live normal lives after being kicked out, i found it hard to accept that they deserved to die forever and that we would be responsible for suffering for their mistakes.
i personally feel like i might have done the same thing adam did when eve offered him the fruit.
For all we know, Eve was only there 1 week before "the incident". She had to be relatively new off the rib if she didn't think a talking snake was odd.
But no. We're I Adam, I would have told her to put the fruit back and if any creatures speak to you stomp them.
like many others on here i was raised and spent many years of my life looking forward to , and basing my life around the anticipated "new world" .this utopian paradise would "satisfy the desire of every living thing".
we would enjoy eternal youth in perfect health,have abundant good food ,comfortable homes ,even welcome our parents and forebears back from the dead - what's not to like?i found this description of a dystopian world on the net :"characteristics of a dystopian society• propaganda is used to control the citizens of society.• information, independent thought, and freedom are restricted.• a figurehead or concept is worshipped by the citizens of the society.• citizens are perceived to be under constant surveillance.• citizens have a fear of the outside world.• citizens live in a dehumanized state.• the natural world is banished and distrusted.• citizens conform to uniform expectations.
individuality and dissent are bad.• the society is an illusion of a perfect utopian world."hmm.
WT depictions of paradise look like Austrian resort towns. Quite pretty mind you but not my cup of tea. I prefer the rain forest. 😆
Also, what's with the clothes? When Adam and Eve were in a state of perfection, they were naked. Only sinners notice nakedness and put on clothes.
I don't pay much relevance to the depictions since the only thing the Bible says is people will be happy, animals won't kill, and Christ will reign. Don't even know if there will be cheeseburgers.
is it me or are you having a hard time commenting on what does this week's bible reading teach me about jehovah & what points from this week's bible study reading can i use in the field ministry ?
i'm having a hard time commenting because what does job show about jehovah....well, # 1 he allowed job's suffering, but he didn't let satan take his life.
# 2 what scripture could one use in the field ministry regarding the book of job...talking to a householder, see if you don't behave, god's gonna get you....or allow satan to get you.
C'mon, y'all know u wanna see that full dress flic. 😊 It's the only reason to step foot in an 'assembly'. (Those were the only things they couldn't screw up, if they were word for word.)
I'll wait for the DVD, and skip over "first call for help" modern guy. His fault he shuns real Christian groups. [They have food banks, help pay your rent, and help keep your electricity on.]
"we will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced .
by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision.
for that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of domitians's reign.
1. Looked like guy was getting the boot from Bethel ....
2. Those guys got beard face.
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
Mom contacted 1975, baptized 1976/77 I think. Dad never in.
Raised since 1977 with some dad interventions. Studied with missionaries as a youngin'. Not too concerned tho'.
Baptized 1987, regular pioneered, accepted to Bethel by GB, denied attending by Elder who sent his son instead, etc
Went walkabout 1992 after crazy WT article outright contradicted previous WT article (in same magazine issue to boot)
Attended the Memorial in 2015 with mom for her partaking, first time in a KH since '92. Everyone had gotten quite chubby since I last saw them. Looking healthy enough.
I'm going with 87- 92 ... 5 yrs
"we will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced .
by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision.
for that was seen no very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of domitians's reign.
just to say a big hello.
i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.
the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.
