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  The battle lines are being drawn

  by hillfy333 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the new rc conventions making their rounds, much has been leaked in regards to their loyalty videos.

  disturbing is the ramping up of hatred and shunning towards those who have faded, especially if such ones according to the watchtower are living in sin, but have not been found guilty as yet by the judicial process.

  certainly of the criteria of guilt, is talking against the gb, which i personally come under.

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  Lieu

  Therein lies the real problem Billy, no one is paying any attention at regular meetings let alone conventions. It's too boring, intentionally I think. Humans aren't hardwired to sit through hours of lecture with no interactions. No one learns anything in such a manner. No matter the size, you can't ask any questions so you sit there ... just being.

  You miss a lot of the crazy being said simply because you've tuned the speakers out and have moved over to internal thoughts (about your legs going to sleep, willing yourself to keep your eyes open, the chair hurts, is it lunch break yet .... toilet run, daydreaming etc)

  People remember and like the dramas because of the interactions, it entails more than a guy standing at the podium lecturing.
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  What does the Armageddon Genocide Actually Accomplish?

  by xjwsrock in

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  2. beliefs

  why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?

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  Maybe it's for bird food? However, if people were destroyed by an intense fire, there wouldn't be anything for the birds to eat but ashes. So ....
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  The world is about to come to its end and what does the Watchtower do?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  they buy a hotel!

  yep in 1975 when the world was about to come to its end the borg buys the brooklyn hotel for 2 million dollars.

  this information has come out now do to the fact they have put up this property for sale.

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  Odd how leaked RC videos show a couple selling their house to downsize as the HQ moves in a modern and larger housing direction.
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  Japanese Still-ins are outraged with this Video

  by nakanozzi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a youtube video posted by jwfairytale , japanese edition.. http://youtu.be/_adktmq-rba.

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  Ak, okay. Thanks nakanozzi.
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  Field Service Privilege Can Be Taken Away Due to Hairstyle and Tight Pants???

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  millie2105 hours agohere is something i just found out this week.former belief - field service is a publishers inalienable right new belief - field service privilege can be taken away if person styles hair or wears clothing in a way that is deemed metrosexual.i was pretty much dumbfounded.. this was posted on another thread, so i decided to start a new topic about this.

  i think this is amazing!

  i wish this was in place when i was a kid.

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  Exactly how are they proposing to stop anyone from doing what they believe is a commandment from God? I mean seriously.

  It's not dress only, if a brother is deemed 'efeminate' ... who's making thesender determinations on what is efeminate or butch? The guys still stuck in the 1950s?
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  Lurking JWs: Do people really need to know and use the word "Jehovah" or other language equivalents, to truly know God?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower puts forth the argument that you can't really know god unless you know and use the appellation "jehovah" or its equivalent in other languages.

  is this really true?

  i say it's not true and i will demonstrate to you why.. god's name is not a mere label that we have to use to communicate with him so that he knows we're talking to him.

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  Not a lurker but, no. One only needs to ask oneself:

  Did Christ or his disciples run around using "Jehovah" all willy nilly? Or did they, like all Hebrews of their time use "heavenly Father"? (Something sacred isn't for every day use.)

  Was that the name given to all through which we must get saved or something?

  In what name did the Apostles and disciples heal and expel demons?

  What name were they threatened about using?

  What name were the early Christians proclaiming throughout their world?

  Who the hell calls their father by his first name except disrespectful children?

  Also, that name "Jehovah" isn't even correct. There are no "j's" in any branch of Syriac languages. It's like you continuously calling someone named Frank, Stanley. How annoying is that for Frank?

  Just because you'd like to say his name that way does not make it his name. That has got to be ever soooo annoying.
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  Old Relative Not Happy About Push To Use Ipads Etc

  by disillusioned 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was in a close relatives house yesterday and she was having angry and resentful at the push to use electronic devices at the meetings.

  she was talking to another relative of mine who has just got an ipad to use.

  this relative of mine is very elderly and obviously prefers to use her bible and other books.

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  People in general don't like change. The oldz really don't like it, which is why the GB is still stuck in 1950 when it comes to most things.

  I'm a techie but I definitely understand rather having a book in the hand than a computer device. Who wants to stare at a screen while reading for hours? Who wants to fool with little keyboards? Annnnd, if I'm into a good read, I want to be able to keep reading in the bathtub or the toilet or outside under a tree and not have to worry about battery issues or electric shock.
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  Funny stories how u got caught while secretly smoking

  by Gefangene in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey folks.

  to those of you who were secrely smoking while being a jw how did your cover get blown?

  do you have any funny stories to share even if at that time they may not have been funny at all due to impending consequences.

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  There's a prohibition on smoking only because Rutherford's nephew "supposedly" died of it. If not for that no one would have cared if anyone smoked.
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  Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

  anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

  i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

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  I don't know about you dreams but this one thing is fact: Nowhere absolutely nowhere in the Bible do demons possess inanimate objects.
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  "They trampled on my humility."

  by Zoos in

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  2. experiences

  it's rare that i bump into someone from the old hall.

  but it happened yesterday with one of the nicest brothers i remember.. he came into my place of work not knowing i worked there.

  my company is now on his delivery route.

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  Zoos, they have no Holy Spirit. They have no mind of Christ. They have no mercy. They have no authority. Having been forgiven much themselves through Christ, they like the guy who was forgiven much but owed a little, beat their fellows and don't forgive.

  IGNORE them. In the end they get thrown into prison .... where they belong.

  Wing Commander, they are self proclaimed "Princes". They have no gifts of prophesy or healing. They have no proof they are Princes..

  Jesus' example of the Prodigal's son. He didn't have to frigging beg. The prostitute didn't have to beg. No one had to beg some STUPID human guy.