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  JWs exist because...

  by oldskool in

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  one sentence answers only.. here's mine:.

  jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..

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  .... because US Adventistism with a strong leaning toward Miller.
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

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  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  See, that's your problem Greybeard. You got that thinking "disease"; that abomination which causes desolation. (I can jack up and misuse scriptures too, ☺) There's no understanding the incoherent, unreasonable, or insane.

  They GB all but came out and said, "obey us even if it doesn't make any sense." That was said for the oldz that know stuff and for the young who may put together a coherent thought.

  Videos of hiding in bunkers, extreme shunning bringing praise, give up all your means to 'the invisible cause' again? We're not the slave but are the slave. The org (a frigging LLC) is mother. We're your mediator, not Jesus ... follow us, obey us!!!! Do more! Tight pants and colorful socks are of satan. Referring to Christ as their brother but never their Lord, King, head, or husbandly owner? (Anyone can ignore a brother or sister)

  Leaving the message of salvation for one of judgement????

  I am quite afraid for my JW relatives as the GB and the psycho drunks in Writing seem off their lithium and about to go full moonbat.
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  Hayden Covington's unwitting role in harsh disfellowship policy

  by Terry in

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  in the january 8, 1947 awake!

  magazine the following article appeared.. .

  the above article was published under the watchtower presidency of nathan knorr.

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  Witness My Furya day ago

  Drugs: Just say no.

  Haaaaa! Er, we know a certain "House of god" is full of drunks.
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  Jws are in the matrix but reversed, sort of.

  by Crazyguy in

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  i thought of this lastnight in light of these new assembly videos.

  we have all seen posts about the comparison with the movie matrix but i think it's in reverse, here's what i mean.

  the jw is in the matrix and yes are the batteries for the machine but instead of thier minds being all fun and happy and life being normal they are the ones being chased by the machines living in zion and thinking thier going to die at any moment.

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  Oops
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  1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. bible

  quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

  "understanding the illustration of the talents".

  "when the master rewards the slaves.".

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  Honestly, they'll get out of that mess as the oldz who know die off. I mean really, if you knew the outright crazy crap (even in terms of 1800's crazy) they were teaching back then, there's no way Jesus would pick them to even scoop dog poo.

  Really, the steam engine was the Biblical leviathan???? A good bit of the thought at that time was batshit crazy. Whatever "spirit" was directing that I seriously doubt it's the right one.
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  Letter # 2 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

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  just sent this letter off to the governing body.

  i also sent a copy to the britain branch.

  the governing body.

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  That's going straight into the trash can as soon as the 19 y old on the desk gets to paragraph 2.

  Paul's letters would have gone into the trash, as shall yours. It's not that kind of place .... you're dealing with people who think they are infallible.

  If they don't listen to Jesus, they will not listen to you.
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  Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.

  they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.

  but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.

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  I hope they don't do another false prophesy. I don't have time for a psychotic mother who has already wasted a good portion of her adulthood chasing the drunken dreams of deluded men.

  "US-centric" deluded men.
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  "Bethelites told they weren’t doing enough, hadn’t reached their potential so about half of them walked out of the talk"

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this was news to me, it's from a year and a half ago,.

  from joe emerson at http://www.christianwitnesses.com.

  bethelites told they weren’t doing enough, hadn’t reached their potential so about half of them walked out of the talk; efforts made to get names of those who walked out but didn’t get them all.

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  Hmmm, may require some verification but it doesn't sound too far off base.

  A post from last year which includes:

  1. Tv, video equipment being sent to Fla. where we now know a segment of Brooklyn Bethel is being relocated. Which department is that again?

  2. Wayward Bethelites. .... OBEY!!!! OBEY!!! OBEY & LOYALTY!

  3. Don't know about sick people but I do know the US military is busy setting something up in the DR. Guy should be able to find decent care or simply pop over to PR.
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  What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

  by Dunedain in

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  i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

  its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

  satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

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  Before 1914?

  Running Greece where his throne was. Then maybe hopping on the Roman bandwagon. Making certain no one could find those Library of Alexandria scrolls. Smirking at how the poor and enslaved were left to die in the Vesuvius eruption.

  Moving on to European wars skirmishes and crusades. Ensuring the Chinese invented gunpowder and SE Asians stopped eating beef. Popped over to the Americas where there were people to yet be slaughtered and sneezed on. (No one gets to hang in the cut, so to speak.) The whole slavery thing. Later his crew hung out with the adventist movement giving them false dates while giggling.

  At some point there's a bunch of those bad boys chained and imprisoned.

  As for angelic DNA and whatnot, who says that went out with the flood? We don't know the ancestry of Noah's wife nor his sons' wives.

  Genesis 6:4 NET

  The Nephilim were on the earth in those days (and also after this) when the sons of God were having sexual relations with the daughters of humankind, who gave birth to their children. They were the mighty heroes of old, the famous men.

  Numbers 13:33 NET

  We even saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak came from the Nephilim), and we seemed like grasshoppers both to ourselves and to them."
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  Does the governing body know what they are doing?

  by Gefangene in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  what do you guys think?.

  are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

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  Yerp and nope. I think they were fanatical believers of being God's channel at one point who have easily become obsessed with themselves. Russell became self obssessed too. A touch of dementia doesn't help their cause either, for some. And r&f slobbering in their presence eggs them on to head dragging the floor glory. It's has led to their insanity, from Russell onward.

  Their problem is they bogarted someone else's seat and they don't want to get out of it. After all, jws all but outright worship the GB. They've entitled themselves as "glorious ones", "faithful and discreet slave", G.O.D. in some sick form of Idolatry. They've equated a LLC with God himself and some type of Mary type "mother" shit and I believe it is all purposeful. Seriously, mother???? Mother would be the wife of the Father, of God, not the bride of Christ, the son. There's over 1000 rules from these men. It's bondage and slavery to MEN. Purposeful.

  They lie on the HS saying they are spirit directed. And yet can't get a single "prophesy" right. Their HS is allegedly dumb. Their light switches are broken. They claim God requires an certain amount of hours in FS, that he requires sacrifice, that 'irrelevant works' will save, and it's a bunch of purposeful LIES. They'd rather have adherents following Moses than Christ. JWS don't even get a Biblical baptism.

  For JWs, the GB IS God. I hope and pray that God gives the GB all that they deserve for their purposeful treacherous behavior. For their antichrist doctrines, for calling the HS evil, and for killing the spirit of millions trying to find the truth. May they never rest. Not now nor in the time to come.