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  Back in the Basement

  by LostGeneration in

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  looks like the faithful jws are back in the basement, the oct 15th wt has this image on page 9. but now the lights have been turned out!

  i guess the persecution is really kicking in if the electric company has shut off their electricity, or the jws are really, really paranoid that the government is gonna get them if they have the lights on!.

  only one guy is smart enough to use his tablet (far right), the rest of the jws are old school, using a lantern to read their bibles in the dark!

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  Are they supposed to be meeting 'secretly' at night or something?

  I think they just need some "new light"▪tm
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  Why Ravi Zacharias Never Became A Jehovah's Witness (Pre 1975 End Times Preaching). Famous Christian Apologist.

  by skepticSam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was shocked to learn dr. zacharias studied with the jws and why he never became a jw, it was the jws incompetence that lead to dr. zacharias leading a different path in life.

  he's one of the best speakers and logicians in my opinion, he's got two phds and works with extraordinary men and women willing to speak at any university or mormon temple because the word he uses is based off the word.

  how come the governing body are afraid to attend q/as at yale, cambridge, oxford, ucla, harvard, rutgers ect..??

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  I didn't read the OP, because well, seriously too long.

  Anyhow, I have no use for, "soon" every other day. Wait my Magic 8 ball is broken! 2000 yrs ago, Apostles said 'deliverance was near' .... Leave it be! Nor people lacking any knowledge of "grace" (undeserved kindness in JW speak). It's called undeserved because you don't deserve it; you can NEVER earn it. God's mercy is gifted freely. Sheesh!

  
  
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  Tax-exempt Status of Churches and the Gay Marriage Decision

  by lambsbottom in

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  2. friends

  it will be interesting to see what will happen with the "beloved" 501c3 tax exempt status which the churches hold so dearly onto.

  the first-century christians met in homes.

  they did not have exemption from taxes to the governments.

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  Mark 12:13-17 WEBThey sent some of the Pharisees and of the Herodians to him, that they might trap him with words. [14] When they had come, they asked him, "Teacher, we know that you are honest, and don't defer to anyone; for you aren't partial to anyone, but truly teach the way of God. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? [15] Shall we give, or shall we not give?" But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, "Why do you test me? Bring me a denarius, that I may see it." [16] They brought it. He said to them, "Whose is this image and inscription?" They said to him, "Caesar's." [17] Jesus answered them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." They marveled greatly at him.

  Biblically speaking, they should never have been tax exempt.
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  WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.

  i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.

  we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.

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  Quacks!

  Research.

  Pardon me, um, but who actually prepared for a WT study? Each paragraph spits the answers to the questions out like a 3rd grade picture book. No one has to strain a cell with an actual thought to answer. I disliked them because they were so condescending and impersonal. At least if you pass research along it makes the mundane boredom of it a tad bit interesting.

  The Internet.

  People who grew up in third world dictatorships knew how to use it. Nigerian scammers have been using it for decades. Who doesn't know how to use it but maybe some 70's and up?

  Make sure of all things.

  Revelation 2:2 GW

  I know what you have done-how hard you have worked and how you have endured. I also know that you cannot tolerate wicked people. You have tested those who call themselves apostles but are not apostles. You have discovered that they are liars.
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  To those who worked with the Public and had Co-workers, would your job have been easier without the Cult mind?

  by skepticSam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the decades i worked with a team of people, around 40 give and take a few in this enterprise.

  the watchtower made thing harder with all the guilt along with that push to convert anyone at any point of the day.

  i thought life would have been so much easier if i was not part of this cult.

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  Nope. I was simply not superior minded enough to feel guilty about doing what I was being paid to do at work.
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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  I was told (by several) that I drink like Noah, smoke like a chimney, and screw some short Latino guy. Yet all admit that no one has ever seen these trespasses. (Probably why they still speak)

  My reply: Why does my boy toy have to be short???!?
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  If you found out TTATT at 80 and spent your entire life at Bethel, what would you do?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. beliefs

  would you do a ray franz deal and write a book or keep quiet and live out the rest of your life in bethel?.

  would you keep reading the watchtower magazine?.

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  Well, at 80 you have no marketable skills, no 401k, and likely no children. Social Security, maybe. You're pretty much screwed.
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  Teddy Hero Worship Continues -- Sept 15 Study Edition Bio on Melita Jaracz

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. bible

  very weird article, you can read it here if you can tolerate such nonsense:.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20150915/melita-jaracz-blessing-in-life/.

  basically teddy was a super, duper spiritual giant who went undercover behind the iron curtain, sorta james bond like.

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  I wonder why they think anyone would care? We're busy trying to keep ahead of bills in this economy.
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

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  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  Also. Where in the Bible does it say the "two witnesses" must be human? Are not Christ & Jehovah credible witnesses? What about the angles, particularly the Watchers?

  I'd use them as my witnesses were I in such a situation.

  It would be interesting to see the WTBTS try and counter that in Court. The only way to prove they didn't "witness" it is to say they don't exist.
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  A JC is NOT a Confessional, in any way shape or form. It is an accusatorial process to protect the WTBTS from lawsuits wherein the "victim" has no anonimity.

  Rape & sexual child abuse laws could care less about religious rules. It's not like the scumbag is going to bring other people along to watch.