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  Celebrities , Adulation , Lifestyle , is this for Jehovah`s Witnesses ? Isn`t it a form of Idolatory ?

  by smiddy in

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  of course this thread is inspired by princes sad death , yet i wonder how the average j.w.

  nowadays.. from what i have gleaned from the many threads about his death their seems to be a reverence about him even on pro-j.w.

  sites.. i have been out for about 25 years , yet in my time in the "truth" anything that put you on a pedestal was a no , no.. competition in any form was discouraged , sports especially.

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  Lieu

  Meh, Michael J, Salena, Prince ... I doubt WTBTS is kept monetarily afloat by drywall installers.
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  I am confused,bewildered

  by bobld in

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  on their social media site:why do we attend large assemblies?

  god's sevants in the past,who were instructed to assemble three times a year, we.

  look forward to meeting together in large groups.soon they will be out in full force.

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  Lieu

  Menstruating ancient ladies were probably quite happy about that rule. 7 days each month of no duties! Making meals was laborious back then, tending house and children. 7 day break. No chocolate on that side of the world yet.

  That whole rape law. Seriously, if you knew you'd have to automatically marry the person you raped, would you rape? Not to forget if you rape someone else, you've just committed adultery and that penalty is death by big rocks.

  It's best not to rape.

  Also, too, I don't think the Bible is anti female, I think misogynistic power crazed men use the Bible to be anti female. Jesus was always talking to the ladies.
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  I am confused,bewildered

  by bobld in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on their social media site:why do we attend large assemblies?

  god's sevants in the past,who were instructed to assemble three times a year, we.

  look forward to meeting together in large groups.soon they will be out in full force.

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  Lieu

  Who "looks forward" to conventions?????

  Aside from the old full dress Bible dramas, conventions are pure leg numbing boredom.

  Jewish festivals are actually festivals and loads of fun. Activities for all. No comparison.

  As for obeying Mosaic Law. Pfffft! Seriously. Who has the cattle for all that?
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  Assimilation day: Imitate Jokeovah!

  by Darkknight757 in

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  2. bible

  so today was the one day assembly or whatever it's called now.

  fun times.😳.

  use resources wisely:.

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  Humans with God like qualities .... ugh! Blasphemy!

  If man, Biblically speaking, is a little lower than the angels ... then why not start off with Angelic like qualities?

  Why not Christ like?

  At least pretend to work your way up.
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  Generation expiry date?

  by pleaseresearch in

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  how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

  the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

  those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

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  Prologos, lol.

  Yes, there is no "this generation" for modern application, as of yet. It is all predicated on events which have not occurred ,Biblically speaking.

  I don't think Russell was correct on any of his "predictions" ... no one after him has been either.

  At times it seemed to me that some of the doctrinal silliness was part of a causal conversation that someone overheard and spread around as doctrine. Next thing you know, you're trying to spin your way out of what you know to be complete nonsense, using more nonsense.
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  Generation expiry date?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

  the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

  those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

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  Lieu

  Well, I'm of the unpopular opinion that 'the Gentile Times' have in no way 'ended'. Kinda obvious to me, so any and all "generation" talk is moot. No need for "new math".

  Plus this whole thing: Luke 21:27-Then they will see the Son of Man arriving in a cloud with power and great glory.

  Whatever "generation" is supposed to actually see that happen. I don't know anyone who has.

  Of course, I'm also of the unpopular opinion that Christ isn't 'invisibly reigning' either. That's kinda obvious too.
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  Assimilation day: Imitate Jokeovah!

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so today was the one day assembly or whatever it's called now.

  fun times.😳.

  use resources wisely:.

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  It's not possible to imitate God.

  I don't care what Paul needed to say to ancient Romans about their dress. I've seen the paintings ... had nothing to do with tight clothing.

  Also, collections were taken to FEED and clothe the needy under siege, not so some could sit comfortably on their bums or to make books.
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  the Guardians of Doctrine - What was your view of GB 1.0?

  by berrygerry in

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  when i was an all-in, younger, somewhat uber-dub - i envisioned the governing body as spending 16 to 18 hours a day at the bethel library, with their noses in the bible and associated research books.

  sky-j was propelling his holy spirit directly at them, maybe opening the book to the right page or paragraph, and zap, new light.. when i learned that these dudes only met on wednesday mornings, for as little as 10 minutes, and spent the rest of their time managing and traveling, it was quite a letdown.. anyone have such thoughts of our guardians of doctrine?.

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  I use to be amazed at the level of GB 'worship' in my younger years. People equated the GB with Jehovah himself.

  I had a one on one with Henschel (late 80's), chatted a good bit. He didn't seem any different than anyone else or any more scripturally knowledgeable.
  
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  Faith, where now?

  by Theburstbubble in

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  so for the first time ever i went to a church service at my local church (coe) and i have to say it was awful!

  it was just like a ritual.

  the vicar would say something and then the congregation would all say a phrase in unison back to him.

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  Faith is internal, a personal belief inside of you ... it isn't a "where", imo. Ya just gotta check around a bit if you are looking to be a part of a community with shared beliefs. Or you could do as Russell Rutherford, etc and have open Bible discussion with a small group of people.
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  Review of Dr. Chryssides' new book on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Old Goat in

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  http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2016/04/a-review.html.

  the book costs 140.00, but i bought it.

  i agree with dr. de vienne's review.

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  Biased people can't read unbiased information without complaining and focusing on minor errors. We should all know that from JWism.

  With each book of research, we glean more and more information. Looks an interesting read.