can someone tell me please when was the first time that the wts published something to the effect that the kingdom of god was born in heavens in 1914 / jesus enthroned invisibly in 1914 ?
i see an obscure reference to an article in a golden age magazine in 1930 but i can't find the actual quote,.
not looking for quotes that talk about the "coming" or "presence" since 1914. i'm looking for actual mention that the kingdom started in heavens in 1914. when was the first ever time this was clearly said in the publications?
Those issues from the link are chock full of the crazy. However, everyone (if you flip a page or so) will be happy to know that the big A is not fought between men or even angels and men. It is the fight between the two angelic sides.
Ok, continue your search.
The info you are looking for is likely in the Finished Mystery which contains 100 or so "prophesies". 1914 was originally the date for Armegeddon, not the enthronement. But after the whole 1870's debacle(s) .....
can someone tell me please when was the first time that the wts published something to the effect that the kingdom of god was born in heavens in 1914 / jesus enthroned invisibly in 1914 ?
i see an obscure reference to an article in a golden age magazine in 1930 but i can't find the actual quote,.
not looking for quotes that talk about the "coming" or "presence" since 1914. i'm looking for actual mention that the kingdom started in heavens in 1914. when was the first ever time this was clearly said in the publications?
Hmmmm. This one is march 1934
https://archive.org/stream/1930-1934TheGoldenAgeMagazine/1930-1934_Golden_Age#page/n123/mode/2up
with the new rc conventions making their rounds, much has been leaked in regards to their loyalty videos.
disturbing is the ramping up of hatred and shunning towards those who have faded, especially if such ones according to the watchtower are living in sin, but have not been found guilty as yet by the judicial process.
certainly of the criteria of guilt, is talking against the gb, which i personally come under.
Therein lies the real problem Billy, no one is paying any attention at regular meetings let alone conventions. It's too boring, intentionally I think. Humans aren't hardwired to sit through hours of lecture with no interactions. No one learns anything in such a manner. No matter the size, you can't ask any questions so you sit there ... just being.
You miss a lot of the crazy being said simply because you've tuned the speakers out and have moved over to internal thoughts (about your legs going to sleep, willing yourself to keep your eyes open, the chair hurts, is it lunch break yet .... toilet run, daydreaming etc)
People remember and like the dramas because of the interactions, it entails more than a guy standing at the podium lecturing.
why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?
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Maybe it's for bird food? However, if people were destroyed by an intense fire, there wouldn't be anything for the birds to eat but ashes. So ....
they buy a hotel!
yep in 1975 when the world was about to come to its end the borg buys the brooklyn hotel for 2 million dollars.
this information has come out now do to the fact they have put up this property for sale.
Odd how leaked RC videos show a couple selling their house to downsize as the HQ moves in a modern and larger housing direction.
a youtube video posted by jwfairytale , japanese edition.. http://youtu.be/_adktmq-rba.
Ak, okay. Thanks nakanozzi.
millie2105 hours agohere is something i just found out this week.former belief - field service is a publishers inalienable right new belief - field service privilege can be taken away if person styles hair or wears clothing in a way that is deemed metrosexual.i was pretty much dumbfounded.. this was posted on another thread, so i decided to start a new topic about this.
i think this is amazing!
i wish this was in place when i was a kid.
Exactly how are they proposing to stop anyone from doing what they believe is a commandment from God? I mean seriously.
It's not dress only, if a brother is deemed 'efeminate' ... who's making thesender determinations on what is efeminate or butch? The guys still stuck in the 1950s?
watchtower puts forth the argument that you can't really know god unless you know and use the appellation "jehovah" or its equivalent in other languages.
is this really true?
i say it's not true and i will demonstrate to you why.. god's name is not a mere label that we have to use to communicate with him so that he knows we're talking to him.
Not a lurker but, no. One only needs to ask oneself:
Did Christ or his disciples run around using "Jehovah" all willy nilly? Or did they, like all Hebrews of their time use "heavenly Father"? (Something sacred isn't for every day use.)
Was that the name given to all through which we must get saved or something?
In what name did the Apostles and disciples heal and expel demons?
What name were they threatened about using?
What name were the early Christians proclaiming throughout their world?
Who the hell calls their father by his first name except disrespectful children?
Also, that name "Jehovah" isn't even correct. There are no "j's" in any branch of Syriac languages. It's like you continuously calling someone named Frank, Stanley. How annoying is that for Frank?
Just because you'd like to say his name that way does not make it his name. That has got to be ever soooo annoying.
i was in a close relatives house yesterday and she was having angry and resentful at the push to use electronic devices at the meetings.
she was talking to another relative of mine who has just got an ipad to use.
this relative of mine is very elderly and obviously prefers to use her bible and other books.
People in general don't like change. The oldz really don't like it, which is why the GB is still stuck in 1950 when it comes to most things.
I'm a techie but I definitely understand rather having a book in the hand than a computer device. Who wants to stare at a screen while reading for hours? Who wants to fool with little keyboards? Annnnd, if I'm into a good read, I want to be able to keep reading in the bathtub or the toilet or outside under a tree and not have to worry about battery issues or electric shock.
hey folks.
to those of you who were secrely smoking while being a jw how did your cover get blown?
do you have any funny stories to share even if at that time they may not have been funny at all due to impending consequences.
There's a prohibition on smoking only because Rutherford's nephew "supposedly" died of it. If not for that no one would have cared if anyone smoked.
