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So much wrong with today's text....

by doubtfull1799 in

"jehovah takes the initiative to bless his loyal servants.".

this statement is a contradiction or on oxymoron or something.... if they already had to demonstrate loyalty before he acted then he did not take the initiative!.

our faith is not complete unless we are convinced that jehovah will reward....yes faith involves the certain expectation of gods promised blessings.. so they condemn people for "serving to a date", the carrot if you like, and being disappointed when there blessings do not materialise at the promised time... yet say that the carrot is an important part of faith!!!.

Lieu

Interesting since that verse has nothing to do with faith. They left something out ...

Malachi 3:9-11 NIV

You are under a curse---your whole nation---because you are robbing me.

[10] Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

[11] I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe, ” says the Lord Almighty.

Seems to have to do with required grain offerings per Mosaic Law and such for the Temple; which they weren't doing.

You don't need faith to follow the law.

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April 2018 Watchtower

by Listener in

here's a few little gems from the latest watchtower.. 5 many today think that to be truly free, they must be able to do anything and everything they want to do, regardless of the consequences.. this statement is just ridiculous, any normal functioning individual understands the necessity for restrictions, for their own protection and justice as well as for others.

it's a very childish statement with no substantiation and written only to create a perception in jw minds of how worldly people are selfish to the point of being reckless and unrestrained.

they liken adam and eve's sinning which resulted in disaster as being like a pilot not following their designated flight path and make this commenthowever, if the pilot chose to disregard that guidance and fly any route he desired, the result could be disastrous.. this is a very bad analogy because when adam and eve sinned, they had already been forewarned of their disaster to follow.

Lieu

There was some sort of prophesy about Timothy making him a bad comparison for general use. He wasn't the norm. Frankly we don't even know what he actually did besides travel with Paul. Considering that he traveled around as an assistant , he could not have been a teen. He was likely somewhere between 20-30. It says Timothy was young, it doesn't say he was a boy (under 20). By the time Timothy was sent to Ephesus, he was over 30. Timothy didn't feel inadequate, he was afraid. They were hunting and killing Christians.

As for freedom, the WT does its best to demean the word and concept because it wants people to be its slave. Freedom-bad, Slavery-good.

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Will the UN turn on Religion?

by no-zombie in

as all witnesses know, the opening gambit of the great tribulation will occur when the united nations turns on organized religion to devastate them and leave them naked of people and resources.

however, as jehovah's judgement day has been spoken of as being "imminent", the question that can be fairly asked ... 'is the united nations organization actually in a position to act as god's destroyer of false religion?

while i have no doubt that most within that organization had in the past tried to make the lives of the desperate better, the united nations has unfortunately now become a weak and underfunded political eunuch.

Lieu

Do UN troops fight or something? Last I recalled UN troops don't engage in combat.

They'd (WTBTS) probably like to change that to NATO but too late, caught wrong in 'predictions' again.

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Watch Tower is NOT Parasitic

by berrygerry in

i was pondering about how parasitic watch tower was and looked it up on wiki:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/parasitism.

interestingly, watch tower is not parasitic, as a parasite does not destroy its host - the host sustains the parasite.. instead watch tower is a parasitoid, which "unlike a true parasite, however, it ultimately sterilizes or kills, and sometimes consumes, the host.".

Lieu

A parasite purposely sucks the life out of its host. JWS don't live, they exist. WTBTS sucks the life out of its adherents: They look towards a future life they can't even be sure they'll be good enough to obtain. Meanwhile, they do absolutely nothing with this life to show they "love their neighbors as themselves". On the contrary, they abhor their neighbors .... just waiting around for them to die.

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Watch Tower is NOT Parasitic

by berrygerry in

i was pondering about how parasitic watch tower was and looked it up on wiki:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/parasitism.

interestingly, watch tower is not parasitic, as a parasite does not destroy its host - the host sustains the parasite.. instead watch tower is a parasitoid, which "unlike a true parasite, however, it ultimately sterilizes or kills, and sometimes consumes, the host.".

Lieu

Do you know the definition of a parasite?

Not the faux Awake learnin' but the real dictionary term.

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New Field Service Report

by cognac in

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has anyone seen this?

when did that happen?.

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

Lieu

Haven't seen it, I don't do punch cards. Volunteers don't "report", employees do. People who write things are publishers. People who peddling things written by others are simply distributers.

Lies, dayum lies, and statistics. Satan. GOD doesn't need reports, men do.

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If you are still in the organization, do you enjoy the meetings ?

by Iamallcool in

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rate it from 1 to 10. thanks!

.

Lieu

People are tired at those meetings and not really paying attention ... that's why everyone isn't supposed to be a speaker / teacher because they aren't any good at it, no matter how hard they may work at it. They're like bad story tellers that even small children would get disgusted with. Horrific, l deem them the daydream encouragers.

I've only heard maybe 5 speakers in 30 yrs who had the "gift of gab" so to speak. The rare quality in a JW to be able to talk to you (not at you) and make the subject matter interesting. I deem them, the conversationalists.

There's no Bible discussion at any meeting, simply prepared lectures. BORING!

Rating: 2

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Obedience At Its Blindest

by Nevuela in

just a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.

it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.

please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.

Lieu

Where oh where is the proof the GB has been "authorized" by anyone to do anything? Poor elder lady :-(

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Why ex-JW's so knowledgeable when it comes to the Bible?

by James Mixon in

over the years here on this site i have found over half of the folks can hold their own with any minister.. why when we leave the borg we become proficient on any subject on the bible.. why did we go down that road?

my intention was to get close to jehovah (searching the bible), but i. guess i found lucifer.

i'am ask all the time, how did you go from a true believer to calling the bible a book.

Lieu

Because once people beat feet they do something they never did as a JW, read the Bible (in context) by itself.

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For JWs..Jesus, The Way, The Truth, The LIfe.

by somebody in

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· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.

but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .

(mark 5:18-20) .

Lieu

The Greek word used in Mark is "kurios" or Lord.

The Greek word used in Luke is "theos" or God.

From Strongs.