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  shunning verses victamization

  by Sabin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i`ve put this out there before but i want to put it in a different context & see what you think.

  i`ve shunned my parents for 20 years (farther, step-mother) because they victimized me every day of my life as a child, believe me when i tell you that writing this , is unbelievable hard, it is making me shake & cry to be pulling up the memories.

  all of what happened i could have forgiven, but one thing.

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  I was never baptized and therefore never shunned. My sister however, was disfellowshipped for "promiscuity and slander" when she had in fact been raped by a pupular dub who admitted to having "consensual sex" with her (he was only reproved). Because my zombie mother and brother disowned her completely, I in turn disowned them and havent seen nor spoken to them in years. Neither my sister nor I were responsible for the fragmentation of our family, yet my mother, brother and dub friends insist she is.

  The stranglehold that the cult has on its minions is staggering and trying to factually or emotionally convey how destructive the doctrines are to people who have not experienced it is almost impossible in my experience.
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  Why the Bible is a poor moral compass

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.

  looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.

  by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

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  SecretSlaveClass

  Caleb: You're clearly very well educated in many aspects including theology and history. I enjoy reading your comments and I hope you don't mind sharing your sources with me at times when Im in need of reference related study? I would greatly appreciate it.

  Rock on man!
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  Why the Bible is a poor moral compass

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.

  looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.

  by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

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  Caleb: Thanks for that information, I was unaware of it. As far as my reference to demons goes, I was using demons in the context of supernatural influence over our behavior which you understood but It was also in general including a "devil" or "Satan". Of course the belief in supernatural influence isn't unique to the Christian Bible, it exists in almost every religion or supernatural belief system.
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  Will his holiness Jehovha Jackson appear before the ARC?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  yes or no.......what say you?.

  i'll start - no!.

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  SecretSlaveClass

  Im going to say yes only because from what I've read and come to understand. If he has indeed been subpoenaed he has to show or face the legal and social consequences.

  Punk your Brit humor is always a home run.
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  A question the Chair (Mclellan) may want to ask G. Jackson

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.

  as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.

  i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?

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  Indian Larry6 minutes agohowever any Witnesses that are listening may wonder about that. Especially since they are aware of the entire context of Rev. 7 which specifically states that these are males from the tribes of Israel. Just trying to get some to think outside the box. That is the first step to breaking the hold the cult has on their brain.
  Besides, for him to try to answer that may be awkward and anything that throws him off his game is fine with me.

  
  

  Completely agree!
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  Oh My God, we associated with "worldly people!"

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and the outcome....we had a blast!

  guess what?

  no sex on the table with the other mate (swapping), no cocaine snorting or weed smoking.

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  Dubstepped: well said!
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  A question the Chair (Mclellan) may want to ask G. Jackson

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.

  as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.

  i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?

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  Imdian Larry: Imsuspect he'll explain it away as women serving Jehovah in two contexts:

  The earthly one where they are subjugated under men.

  The heavenly one where it is sexless and all serve equally.

  Exactly what his evidence to support this would be Im sure he'll find plenty selective biblical quotes to interpret in the way they (GB) have always done.

  Good question nonetheless.
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  Why the Bible is a poor moral compass

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.

  looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.

  by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.

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  I would suggest the compass was an illusion created by men who had no scientific understanding. Ill use two examples.

  1) Thoughts of a sexual nature are regarded as unclean and forbidden. But we are not the masters of these impulses, our hormones are. We can at best only control the outcome of these impulses. If these impulses are evil, why do we get them and get them often? If there's a God who designed us, this would suggest there is a major design flaw.

  2) Much of the behaviour (eg. Suicidal tendencies, addictions) deemed as demonic we know today as being the result of chemical imbalances and various other biological elements in the equation and not some paranormal force. Again if we insist on hanging onto this belief system we suggest a design flaw when He's supposed to be perfect and all powerful.

  I don't suggest I'm in the right here, merely that this is my view with the issue of judging human behavior with biblical principle.
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  Oh My God, we associated with "worldly people!"

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and the outcome....we had a blast!

  guess what?

  no sex on the table with the other mate (swapping), no cocaine snorting or weed smoking.

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  SecretSlaveClass

  Toes: that's great to hear. Reality is a lot less about doom and gloom than people would have you think.

  cognac14 hours agoAwwww, that's so awesome!!!
  Today my 6 year old insisted on a birthday cake. So, we celebrated her birthday. Again. It is not her birthday, lol

  You sound like the world's greatest mom. Nice to know there are parents like you, it gives me a lot of hope for the future generation!
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  Good news RE - Geoffrey Jackson and the RC

  by iwasblind in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hey guys.

  this was just put up on the rc site.

  rc will recommence on the 14th august.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.

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  SecretSlaveClass

  This is excellent news! Thanks for sharing.