Posts by SecretSlaveClass

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My First Birthday.....

by The Marvster in

i awoken today and realised immidiately i'm 44 today... and after 3 years of being out, decided to acknowledge my birthday.... i'm off out to treat myself to a big hearty breakfast with cup of tea in the local weatherspoon's by the massive pond full of weird bird-life, later today i'm giving myself a gift of a 90 minute relaxation session in a float tank down by canary wharf in london.... only really have 2 close friends (it's a slow process trusting people agian) and they probably won't be able to see me today, but i'm sure i'll have a belated surprise from them both.... the first thing i did when i remembered was to rush to the computer, connect to the web and put on stevie wonder's 'happy birthday', as i listen to it, tears stream down my face... all those years of my life stolen ' but..... i'm free....'.

SecretSlaveClass

Happy birthday! If you lived nearby I'd buy you a drink.....

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

SecretSlaveClass

For the same reason an older child stops believing in Santa Claus .

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Why doesn't God need a creator, while the Universe does?

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

i asked this question of a jw that called on me yesterday: "if the universe requires a creator, why doesn't god?

if the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't god?

he claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.. i'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say.

SecretSlaveClass

I think I was around ten or eleven when I began to ask my mom who made god and the same old, regurgitated explanation was used: Jehovah has no beginning and no end. Even back then it made no sense to me.

I agree with Viv, if a creator didn't need a creator, then why not until proven otherwise accept that the universe came to be without a creator? And along with what Prologos said, a creator existing in a void makes no sense either. Accept what science demonstrates - it all began with a BB or you're just a dog chasing its own tail.

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Stephen Lett spouting stupidity

by Watchtower-Free in

short cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faru4hjj7rc

SecretSlaveClass

His mouth has a mind of its own the way it moves around his face. It makes me wonder if the mind his mouth has realizes it's too smart to be used to convey his ridiculous thoughts and is trying to escape from his disgusting latex face.

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Last Days? Are you serious ....?

by Aleph in

believing we live in the last days?.

SecretSlaveClass

Perhaps they would prefer to go back to the 1800's and drive a wagon. They could do fun things like get lost in the desert and die, get caught in a blizzard and die, cross a not frozen enough lake and die, run into bandits and die. So much fun don't you think?

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What is Your Favorite JW YouTube Video?

by cognac in

jw
friends

maybe it's shocking, funny, a good story, etc.. i was just watching the one below... i was shocked!

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qmypu7mxo.

SecretSlaveClass

Cognac:

best part about your video is the guy is yelling in the "deaf" section of the assembly.

Morpheus:

Did you make that? It was brilliant. Definitely my favorite.

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is there trully a GOD

by piledriver in

the answer every person and religion wants to know is .

is there trully a god no false prophets yes .theres two many to even think about who just want your money and time to spread there evil word .no god is more important in this lifetime that you have on this world than the love you recive and give to your real family .

anyone who is a jehovah's witnesses trully knows they are in a cult not a religion minipulated and threatend with emotional blackmail and pain it makes them feed off your sadness and manipulate there flock into beiving this what jehovah ( false prophet) wants pure sanctamonius bullshit read the book shepard the flock of god charles teze russle was the founder but and since jesus is the founder of chrisianity the organisation regard him as the true founder of there fake faith plus he c.t russle was a child molester .

SecretSlaveClass

God is like an undisclosed transvestite to a heterosexual. He's interested until the truth is revealed.

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And China's version of the Nobel prize goes to ... Robert Mugabe! WTF?!

by LoveUniHateExams in

according to the guardian, the confucius peace prize has been awarded this year to one robert gabriel mugabe.

yes, you read that right.

i suppose i could've put this thread in either the entertainment section or joke section instead.

SecretSlaveClass

Actigall Ur
Oh, Mandela was fully aware that his country would have been set ablaze if he did not play both sides. I admit, it was well played. But he still showed his true colors throughout his political career.

Oliver Tambo was the one who set policy for the ANC, was responsible for organizing the respective guerrilla groups of Umkhonto we Sizwe (the armed wing of the ANC) and authorizedall "military" oprations carried out by them before Nelson Mandela was made president of the ANC in 1994, by which time all aggression between Umkhonto we Sizwe and the South African Defense force had ceased. Blaming Mandela for policies of agression against whites when he had had no say in the conduct of the guerilla warfare waged is ridiculous.

While Mandela was still in prison on Robin Island, FW de Klerk was already conducting negotiations with him knowing full well that the ANC would win the inevitable free elections. It was also well accepted that Mandela would become president of the ANC and therefore the country's first black leader. In the many communiques between Mandela and de Klerk, it was clear de Klerk knew Mandela (who had become a moderate in his latter years of incarceration) was South Africa's only hope in preventing complete Africanization, the adoption of communism and wholesale reprisals against whites and enemies of the ANC (IFP is a good example) Mandela warned de Klerk that, although he could promise to do everything in his power to bring peace and stability to South Africa, he could not guarantee controling those elements within the ANC who were die-hard Africanists, determined to continue reprisals and even try to force whites from out of the country which proved to be true.

Saying Nelson Mandela had no choice but to reconcile relations between black and white is spitefully denying him of the credit he rightfully deserves for preventing large scale bloodshed and bringing peace to the country. In order for Mandela to bring peace he had to face tough adversaries like Thabo Mbeki who was certain that Mandelas policy of reconcilliation would not have the full support of the black population and therefore cause the ANC to lose credibility amongst its supporters. There were also those non-ANC hardliners from the SACP, AZAPO and the PAC who vehemently opposed Mandela, causing the very real threat of a splintered black political front which may well have culminated in an all out civil war. Then there was also the extremely delicate subject of approaching and dealing with the ANC's once mortal enemy, the Inkatha Freedom Party. After over a decade of animosity and bloodshed between the IFP and the ANC supported UDF, Mandela not only forgave the IFP's white puppet leader Buthelezi, but supported the IDF in its insistence to be the sole political representative of Zululand, allowing the Zululand "government" at Ulundi to remain while having to make few compromises.

Mandela's dogged determination, keen political understanding and grasp of the white population's precarious position, the need for a democratic government still acknowledging the National Party (the ones responsible for apartheid and black suffering in the first place) as a legitimate party, with a right to seats in parliament speaks volumes about how wise and forgiving the man was. As you youself admitted, he did a good job, although I would go further and state that what he achieved was incredible - if I believed in miracles I would say it was almost miraculous. Particularly when one takes into account what Mandela inherited and the seemingly insurmountable odds he had to overcome when he was handed the reigns to a country which was in desperate need of a complete social, political, and psychological overhaul.

Give credit where it's due. In my opinion he is the greatest politician and humanitarian of our time and only a biased, ignorant person would suggest he didn't deserve a Peace Prize. Count your lucky stars we got him instead of one of the other potential hardliners who could have made Mugabe seem tame.

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If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?

by Truthexplorer in

do the lottery.

celebrate my child's birthday.

sign workmates birthday cards.

SecretSlaveClass

For us Yanks, or at least me, can you fellas explain what "pissed up" means. I never heard that expression

It means to to get thoroughly drunk.

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Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

by Tornintwo in

today's watchtower:.

obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

SecretSlaveClass

I will find the link to the actual footage when I get a break from work. In the meantime if you want to watch footage from the 1938 Nuremberg rally, I'm sure you'll find it.