The language they use is calculated to be confusing and laced with subterfuge. This affords them with plausible deniability and an exit strategy from their policies and statements. The problem for them is Angus Stewart is an outstanding lawyer who is an expert at cutting through the entangled mess of nonsense and getting to the core argument.
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Branch Manual 2015
by Marvin Shilmer inapparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.
the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.
watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.
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We are on the stage for all mankind, why not urge all JW to witness it?
by James Mixon ini would be proud to be on the stage to give a good witness to the world.. instead there is zip about the procedures in australia for the rf, they are clueless.. you would think the gb would be so proud for it's members to watch how they.
defend the truth.
correct me if i'am wrong but is there any thing on jw.org to indicate.
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the girl next door7 minutes ago
The Royal Commission has proven to be a disaster for Watchtower. They will not direct any attention to it. Gormless elders and branch overseers and an "expert witness" that threw them under the bus. Good witness? Haaa
Agrred. They took a shot at it several times and ended up with egg on their face (as an Org) on every occasion. I think attempting to give a "good witness" will not be their strategy now, but rather damage control which in my opinion will take on the façade of a timid and complacent organization receptive to suggestions for policy change.All they would need to do to retain the sheeple is explain the changed policy as working with authorities as commanded by the bible .... -
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Requested to have all the shepherding concerns in writing.
by quincemyles ini have not turned in a single field service report this year.
i decided not to, after noticing the simple flaw in the calculation of 1914. the implications are huge, i.e the appointment of the fds is a fraud.
i some days ago informed them of the private watchtower documents that are in my possession courtesy of the royal commission.
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shunning verses victamization
by Sabin ini know i`ve put this out there before but i want to put it in a different context & see what you think.
i`ve shunned my parents for 20 years (farther, step-mother) because they victimized me every day of my life as a child, believe me when i tell you that writing this , is unbelievable hard, it is making me shake & cry to be pulling up the memories.
all of what happened i could have forgiven, but one thing.
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I was never baptized and therefore never shunned. My sister however, was disfellowshipped for "promiscuity and slander" when she had in fact been raped by a pupular dub who admitted to having "consensual sex" with her (he was only reproved). Because my zombie mother and brother disowned her completely, I in turn disowned them and havent seen nor spoken to them in years. Neither my sister nor I were responsible for the fragmentation of our family, yet my mother, brother and dub friends insist she is.
The stranglehold that the cult has on its minions is staggering and trying to factually or emotionally convey how destructive the doctrines are to people who have not experienced it is almost impossible in my experience.
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Why the Bible is a poor moral compass
by Diogenesister inplease don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.
looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.
by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.
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Caleb: You're clearly very well educated in many aspects including theology and history. I enjoy reading your comments and I hope you don't mind sharing your sources with me at times when Im in need of reference related study? I would greatly appreciate it.
Rock on man!
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Why the Bible is a poor moral compass
by Diogenesister inplease don't click the link if you feel details of abuse would upset you http://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/letter-to-the-director-of-public-prosecutions-from-steven-unthank-in-relation-to-discontinuing-the-criminal-trial-february-2012-pdf.pdf.
looking at some of the events that led up to the rc in australia i came across this letter, submitted to the d.p.p.
by steven upthank, in relation to the crown discontinuing prosecution of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.
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Caleb: Thanks for that information, I was unaware of it. As far as my reference to demons goes, I was using demons in the context of supernatural influence over our behavior which you understood but It was also in general including a "devil" or "Satan". Of course the belief in supernatural influence isn't unique to the Christian Bible, it exists in almost every religion or supernatural belief system. -
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Will his holiness Jehovha Jackson appear before the ARC?
by punkofnice inyes or no.......what say you?.
i'll start - no!.
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Im going to say yes only because from what I've read and come to understand. If he has indeed been subpoenaed he has to show or face the legal and social consequences.
Punk your Brit humor is always a home run.
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A question the Chair (Mclellan) may want to ask G. Jackson
by Indian Larry inmr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.
as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.
i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?
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Indian Larry6 minutes agohowever any Witnesses that are listening may wonder about that. Especially since they are aware of the entire context of Rev. 7 which specifically states that these are males from the tribes of Israel. Just trying to get some to think outside the box. That is the first step to breaking the hold the cult has on their brain.
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Oh My God, we associated with "worldly people!"
by ToesUp inand the outcome....we had a blast!
guess what?
no sex on the table with the other mate (swapping), no cocaine snorting or weed smoking.
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A question the Chair (Mclellan) may want to ask G. Jackson
by Indian Larry inmr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.
as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.
i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?
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Imdian Larry: Imsuspect he'll explain it away as women serving Jehovah in two contexts:
The earthly one where they are subjugated under men.
The heavenly one where it is sexless and all serve equally.
Exactly what his evidence to support this would be Im sure he'll find plenty selective biblical quotes to interpret in the way they (GB) have always done.
Good question nonetheless.