Ding: That's actually an excellent analogy. Too bad when it's someone else pointing it out to them it doesn't apply.
Scary21: glad you agree! :D
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
Ding: That's actually an excellent analogy. Too bad when it's someone else pointing it out to them it doesn't apply.
Scary21: glad you agree! :D
today as i had the old timey music playing and the song love potion no.
9 came on, i remembered being reproved by a brother at a get together when i sang along to that same song.
oh that song is spiritistic, blah blah.
due to some recent developments i find myself in a new place, and at this point i've lost all of my family and fri....oh that's right, i never really had any friends in the organization anyway.
just people that wanted something from me and a few people that i would invite to do things that occasionally said yes.
the recent rejections of me got me thinking, so let's take a rejection inventory.. i had to reject all of the holidays when my parents started studying.. i had to reject any worldly friends that i already had.. even family became rejected, and the new religion had some place in that.. i was rejected in school and bullied all of the time, not just because we were poor and i made good grades, but for jw reasons too.
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.
we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.
but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The real zombies are so desperate in their need for salvation and an after life, any suggestion that death of as the final outcome is terrifying. They would rather hang on to an illusion and lie to their children (depriving their kids of a chance at a full, meaningful life) than admitt that like all things on this planet - even mountains - they will succumb to time. The mentality of clinging to a lie is almost impossible for the most enquiring mind to comprehend.
By the way, the fact that their cult is based on a foundation of lies means they aren't offering anything either other than lies. And they want to go door to door and lie about a false hope and deprive others of a shot at a fulfilling life.
Forget them, let them waste the only life they have in favor of the belief they'll get an eternal pass to Disneyland. I would rather spend my time helping those seeking reality and warning those not in the Org yet not to fall for their sadisctic jargon.
lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.
i am a second-generation jw.
i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.
so once again i was able to make a comment to tweak those who were at this mornings wt parrot session using their own printed words.
the question on par.
10 was, "why is flirting dangerous?".
OFS I would have loved to have seen the expressions on the congregation's faces.
BrandNew.. Lol!
your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!
i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.
revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.
When left the Org in the 80's, South Africa was still very much under the heel of apartheid. Political organizations such as the African National Congress (Nelson Mandela's political party) who were representing the oppressed black population, were outlawed as terrorist organizations. Havimg being raised with Zulus and Xhosas I abhorred racism and racial injustice and would often passionately engage in anti-apartheid discussions. I had one such discussion with a JW ( now Df'd) and let my hatred for the apartheid government be known. Some time later I learned via the grape vine that I was apparently associating with terrorists and the rumor had gone so far as to suggest I had even harbored insurgents from a training camp in Mozambique. This may not seem like much, but had I not been in the military at the time these rumors may well have ended with me being detained by the authorities.
Dont let anyone fool you that all Org zombies have your best interests at heart.
in today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.
so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.
also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.
Stillin:
Morals are a personal decision. You can have the best parental and social guidance possible but unless one chooses to exercise self discipline and live by those morals chosen, all the guidance in the world amounts to naught. Parenting and social structures can be coercive or enforce the accepted morals of a society but in the end it is up to the individual to live by those morals.
Morals are also extremely subjective since they vary so greatly between cultures, countries (politics) and respective beliefs. Because one may not agree with someone else's morals it does not necessarily make them immoral. When people decide to impose their morals on others they end up treading a fine line between impeding on legitimate freedom and creating a happy, moral society. It's no different to imposing religious or political beliefs on others.
This is why I go by a simple rule: as long as what I do in my life does not harm other creatures psychologically, physically or deny them their freedom, then I am not being immoral in any way, so I'll be damned if I'll let anyone else impose their moral views on me and harm me psychologically, physically or deny me my freedom to live my life within my own moral framework. Depriving others of their freedom based on one's own morals can in itself be immoral.