Posts by SecretSlaveClass

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Although I don't believe a word of the bible I have visited this site several times. These gentlemen/ladies (not sure what they are and it doesn't matter) really know their scripture and are practically experts on the JW doctrine. Since atheism is rarely a good means of encouraging JW's to examine their faith in the Org, I think this site is an excellent vehicle for this purpose. In fact they are so good at using scripture and the Org's own doctrine to point out fatal flaws I can see why the Org is so concerned with the Beroean site. It's a classic case of fighting fire with fire. I support anything that threatens to undermine the Org's authority.

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So I was enjoying a business trip in down town Bangkok...............Next thing BANG!!!

by cantleave in

jw
friends

so last night i was having a wonderful meal in a very nice restaurant when we heard what we thought was a loud clap of thunder.................. it was a bomb.

yards from my hotel.

thankfully i made a few decision that meant i wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.

SecretSlaveClass

Good to read you suffered no harm! Bombs are the ultimate tool for the ultimate coward.

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Another one decides to leave

by problemaddict 2 in

well in a month where i had a friend of 20 years tell me "we can't kick it no mo" because i no longer go to meetings, i had an even older friend who is coming to visit me, call me and tell me hes out.. currently a high profile ms who gives talks out all over the place, the elders said they are recommending him for appt to the body in sep when the co is coming through.

but nope......hes about to step down all together.. what did it?

because i am not disfellowshipped, and soft peddle my issues with the org, i was able to speak to him about things like blood, and a couple other things.

SecretSlaveClass

I agree with above mentioned takes on "a moral center". Are the parents immoral? Why can't they use their own values and morals as a guide? After all isn't that part of a responsible parent's job, to instill good morals and ethics? This reeks of classic bad western parenting where the responsibility of role models are passed on to athletes, celebrities, politicians etc. so when these "role models" fail with their own morals all those that encouraged their kids to look up to them as an example are shocked and outraged. Why are they shocked? It's not their responsibility, they're your kids not theirs! What a joke.

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Article- Child checks for all religious leaders, inquiry recommends

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/child-checks-for-all-religious-leaders-inquiry-recommends/story-fngburq5-1227486717033.

by: rick morton .

from: the australian .

SecretSlaveClass

Sparrow:

That's an excellent question!

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Article- Child checks for all religious leaders, inquiry recommends

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/child-checks-for-all-religious-leaders-inquiry-recommends/story-fngburq5-1227486717033.

by: rick morton .

from: the australian .

SecretSlaveClass

Welcome news indeed!

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I don't want the Watchtower's version of paradise.

by StarTrekAngel in

i am writing this in the hopes that it may help someone in a debate.

i personally have not had a chance to discuss it with anyone but that is true for most other topics.

i think is a good one to analyze.

SecretSlaveClass

GodZoo and DataDog:

You guys got some belly laughs out of me. As Larry the Cable Guy would say, "That's funny right there, I don't care who ya are!"

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badly handled from Elders

by Olivia Wilde in

i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.

i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.

well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.

SecretSlaveClass

Olivia I'm sorry to hear you had to endure such awful abuse, particularly in a setting that is supposed to emulate Jesus' example of love. I'm happy you've discovered TATT and will finally be able to make a decision for your future based on your own conscience and understanding what the reality is. At least when you finally decide to leave you will no longer have to face that sort of mental abuse. Good luck and know that we're all here to help any way we can!

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I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

by John Aquila in

so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

SecretSlaveClass

Some of uou will hate what I say here but it's soley my perspective and opinion.

It is not a matter of "whatever floats your boat".

I DO have a problem with those that want to stay JWs as it's a religion that causes harm, in the same way I detest the Catholics for their inquisition. You may say that's in the past but I beg to differ. Their practice of cruel enforcement destroyed peoples and cultures who to this day suffer the after effects. Cruelty practiced now does not always stop when those practices cease - they often leave scars for generations. And that is my view of the Org. The emotional scars they inflict do not miraculously heal and if you support the Org then in my eyes you are guilty of turning a blind eye to the cruelty and even supporting it. I draw no distinction between the blame shouldered by the GB and its minions. If your're a cog in the meat grinder then you are as blood stained as any part of it.

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Need someone to talk to

by Anonymous17 in

hi i've been a jw my whole life and i'm 17 now.

i've never had a mine of my own and recently i started thinking more open minded and i know the being a jw isn't for me.

i feel like i've been in a bubble my whole life.

SecretSlaveClass

Anonymous 17:

Evidently you have a very good head connected to your neck. You sound mature for your age and obviously have an enquiring mind. These are qualities that will stand you in good stead in your future as a free person!

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Need someone to talk to

by Anonymous17 in

hi i've been a jw my whole life and i'm 17 now.

i've never had a mine of my own and recently i started thinking more open minded and i know the being a jw isn't for me.

i feel like i've been in a bubble my whole life.

SecretSlaveClass

Everything mentioned above is pretty much spot on. I stopped going to meetings when I was 14 and was never baptized. I simply told my parents I wasnt interested in the religion anymore and I would no longer attend anything remotely related to it. Fundamenlist JW that my mother is, she wasreally upset but I didn't care. Leaving the org did not mean I wanted nothing to do with my parents so I was still respectful, responsible and did everything that was expected of me outside of the Org.

It's of vital importance that you continue to be a good daughter, this way they won't get the impression you want out of the religion in order to be rebellious, but just that you have your resptive disagreements and would rather not be part of it, therefore there is no need to fade - simply quit. But if your parents threaten to throw you out if you leave the religion I recommend you talk to your school guidance councellor. Also get an after school/weekend job so you can start saving money now! That was what I did and it helped tremendously when I left home at 17 yrs old.

Try to build up as big a network possible of friends outside the Org as mentioned before, this is extremely important. If I had not had a lot of friends when I left at a young age I have no doubt I would have found myself in dire straights.

You are at a huge advantage over most on this forum. You will be leaving before your life becomes too entangled and dependent on the Org, not to mention the indoctrination you've undergone is not as ingrained in you as it is for those leaving much later in life, you'll find your transition to living a "worldly" life to be pretty smooth.

Anyway, welcome to the place where we are all working on an anti-Governing Body vaccine! You're amongst an excellent community whom are genuinely compassionate. Any help you need or questions you have, please feel free to ask. We're all eager to help!