Posts by lisaBObeesa

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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America

by flipper in

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in the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.

from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.

i love em' all.

lisaBObeesa

And in the 21st century- being white doesn't guarantee a person is privileged anymore- in my opinion. There are lots of Major League Baseball players, NBA players, and NFL football players that prove my statement correct. Many multicultural racial groups in those major sports nowadays. True- Some sports like NASCAR , swimming, etc. might be considered " mostly white " sports - but I don't consider that being privileged.

You seriously just used professional sports to prove that there is no more white privilege in this country? Seriously?

Come ON.

ETA: I'm gonna bow out here, or at least try. If I don't, I'll just go on and on.

Peace to you, Mr. Flipper!

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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America

by flipper in

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friends

in the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.

from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.

i love em' all.

lisaBObeesa

LISABOBEESA- When you think about it - racism is very similar to Jehovah's Witnesses thinking they are superior over " worldly " people or non-witnesses.

Yeah. And if you were to ask a Witness if they think they are superior to worldly people they would say "Oh NO! Absouletly not!" and they would really believe they were telling the truth.

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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America

by flipper in

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friends

in the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.

from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.

i love em' all.

lisaBObeesa

With your statement : " Granted, I'm white and privileged. Would you rather rise to my situation or I sink to yours ? " Bingo. And therein lies part of the problem with attitudes like you just displayed. People thinking they are superior to others due to race. In your statement it makes me cringe with the air of superiority . What makes you think that because you are white- it has anything to do with you being privileged ? What makes you think you're privileged ? It's all a subjective opinion on your part. In saying that someone should RISE to your situation you elevate yourself above the person you claim you don't want to sink to their level. It's a pompous attitude.

I think Dark Side was responding to my post about white privilege, not saying that he believes he is superior because he is white. And his being white does have an awful lot to do with his being privileged in this society.

I do agree it came off sounding superior.

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Do men STINK?

by Nathan Natas in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owgykvbfgue.

lisaBObeesa

I found out the other day that the first video ("...I'm on a horse") was all one take! That shower really was on a boat, etc...

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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America

by flipper in

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in the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.

from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.

i love em' all.

lisaBObeesa

Okay. How? Racism is everywhere. Electing Obama was supposed to end it all. It's worse. How do you end it?.

Who said electing Obama was supposed to end it all? Who would think that? I promise you that people of color in this country never thought that for a second. Heck, I'm white, but I was pretty sure all hell was gonna break loose when he was elected.

Yes, it's worse. Obama is proof that very, very slowly, white privilege is being chipped away at. When we were in high school they taught us that because of white privilege it was impossible for a black man to be elected president in this country. Something has changed since then and while we might be happy about that change, a lot of people are not. A lot of people who don't even know they have white privilege or what it is, but they can feel in their bones that things are changing and that they are loosing something... And they are not going to let it go without a fight.

How do we end racism? That is THE question, isn't it. I wish I knew the one perfect answer. I know that just knowing it is a problem is not going to change it. I know that just 'not being racist' is not going to change the problem. Racisim is systemic in our culture. It's part of everything. What can we do? We shine a light on it. We speak up when people say things that are not true. We search under every rock within ourselves looking for it and when we find it (and we will), we stamp it out. We refuse to support people and systems that work to keep white privilege in place. We teach our children the truth about our society. We support affermative action until the numbers show it is not needed. Whites simply MUST open the doors to others that are already open to us. We must do it because more often than not, due to white privilege, we are standing at the doors, holding the keys! We never, ever pretend that we as white people are somehow victims. We never ever pretend we are doing anyone some kind of favor. We never, ever stop fighting for equality in our society. We never overlook racist remarks. We understand that as Americans we have a responsibiliy to do everything we can to save our country from the poison of systemic racism. If we don't, it will destroy us.

Granted. I'm white and priveledged. Would you rather rise to my situation or I sink to yours?

I don't understand this response. A person CAN'T 'rise' to the situation of having white privilage. You either have white skin or you don't.

(ETA: I'm sorry if I've strayed to much from the purpose of the thread...)

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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America

by flipper in

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friends

in the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.

from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.

i love em' all.

lisaBObeesa

I agree that white people don't need to hang their heads in shame over the sins of the past.

I also think that is important that white people recognize that because of those sins of the past, white people are still benifiting TODAY. It's not our fault that we are benifiting, it's not our fault that we are privileged in this society, but we are.

Because of our skin color, we have privilege in this society.

THis is not our fault, but that doesn't really matter, does it? The fact is that because of our skin color we have privileges that other people do not have, and that is not fair. We benifit from an unequal, unfair, and yes, racist society.

Because of my skin color it is easier for me, with only a high school deploma and very little money, to rent a house in a safe, clean neighborhood than it is for a person of color with a college degree and some money in the bank to rent the same house.

I don't hate myself because of that. I don't hate my race.

But at the same time, all of us, white, black or brown, have a responsibily to fight the racism in our culture until it no longer exisists. Yes, white people have to work to get rid the unfair, racist 'white privilage' that we enjoy every single day in this society. And in order to do that, first we must acknowlege that it exists right now today, and that WE benifit from it.

That is what the 'vast majority' of Americans want.

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My letter to my aunt.

by alice.in.wonderland in

my grandparents are jehovah's witnesses and didn't raise their daughter to behave in such a manner.

i sent her this letter:.

g82 5/8 pp.

lisaBObeesa

Wow. that's some great 'love' right there.

Fantastic.

What a fine 'Christain' witness this is.

I'm sure your Aunt will appreciate your deep concern contempt for her.

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are you glad to be done with this type of insanity (taken from yahoo e-mail group)

by booby in

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friends,.

i've been doing research and can find almost nothing on this in the research aids.. my question is this.

at the end of the system, the calamity of the coming destruction will be enough to destroy most of the life on this planet.

lisaBObeesa

I don't know how someone who believes in God could ask such a question.

Anyway, I don't think he will get into any trouble for this question or questions like it since in the Borg it is perfectly acceptable to question God as much as you like.

Just so long as you don't question the Organization, you are fine.

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Prince says the Internet is 'Over'

by Hoping4Change in

http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/07/06/prince-internet-over/.

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lisaBObeesa

Dang it. I kinda liked the internet.

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Tempur - pedic mattresses

by linp24 in

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folks, do you own a tempur pedic mattress?

if you do, are you satisfied with it?

how bout a sleep number bed?.

lisaBObeesa

MOST people love the tempurpedic... BUT!!!

IF you have back problems like mine, the tempurpedic could be the worst mattress ever.

I got one of these because so many people with back problems love their tempurpedics. What I learned is that not all back problems are the same! I don't know what exactly is wrong with my back, but whatever it is HATES the tempurpedic. The first night I slept on it, I woke in extreme pain. The second night I tried to sleep on it I only lasted half the night before I had to go sleep on the couch because the pain was so bad. Then the whole next day I was in pain. The third night the same. The fourth night I only stayed in the bed a few minutes before I moved to the couch, ...and told my poor husband the mattress had to go. (He loved the mattress...)

I know a few of people who have the mattress and they all love it. I'm the only one who had any trouble. But I had really bad trouble.

Just something to know.