Wes and Stacey,
Thank you for sharing. Thank you very much.
I am so very sorry for your loss.
lisaBObeesa
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I would love for you to know my Oompa.... (from one of his closest friends)
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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lisaBObeesa
oh I see now! thank you!
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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lisaBObeesa
If this is a photo of Eric I am confused by the previous photo posted by Bizzy from Facebook?.Looks like two different people
Yes, they do look like different people...
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Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception
by Indian Larry inplease post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.
my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.
i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.
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another example of deception that extends to almost every individual Jehovah's Witness: they lie to the public about shunning.
Walk up to any Jehovah's Witness at a table at the mall...any Jehovah's Witnesses you don't know personally. Ask them: "Do you shun former members?" Every single one of them will say "No!"
Every single Jehovah's Witness you approach will try to deceive you, the 'interested one', with this incomplete, untrue and deceptive answer.
Because they have been taught to be as DECEPTIVE as their organization is in order to get converts! JWs don't even know they are doing it! The whole thing is BUILT on deception. IT is not just the Org that is deceptive in what they teach from the platform and what they print, it is also each rank and file member who are actively and voluntarily part of the deception.
Perhaps your own wife will demonstrate this CLEAR CUT Watchtower Deception if you were to have someone else ask her if JWs shun former members... or do they shun people who just don't want to be JWs anymore...
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You could also find some of the examples of where the JWs change things the WT and Awake orginally said in the bound volumes or on the WT CD in order to hide their 'mistakes.' =desception! The only way you would ever know is if you had the original...
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Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception
by Indian Larry inplease post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.
my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.
i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.
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lisaBObeesa
Luke 23:43 did it for me. No internet is needed, no 'apostate' sources are needed. Just a bunch of Bibles and ideally the orginal greek scriptures... You could go to the library to research this contested NWT verse like I did. Go to the library and pull out every single version of the Bible you can find and read the scripture. Then read that verse in the Jehovah's Witness version of the Bible. The NWT desception is obvious and even shocking (at least it was to me, years ago when I descovered it).
Notice that in every other scripture with the phrase 'Truly I say to you,' the NWT always puts the comman after 'you' as all the other translations do. ONLY in Luke 23:43 to they move the comma in this common phrase and thus change the entire meaning of the verse-- because if they did not change the verse from the original, that verse would PROVE that JWs are WRONG about some of the their primary teachings. This is deliberate DECEPTION of what the Bible actually says in order to make it SEEM like the Bible supports JW teachings when this scripture clearly DOES NOT.
It was seeing this deception that finally made it clear to me that I had not just being misled by a mistaken interpretation of the Bible but rather that I had been LIED to by a deliberate mistranslation of the Bible.
More research into the orignal greek etc, shows this to be a fact.
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Colossians 1:16-20. Look it up in all other translations, in the interlinear, everywhere...then look at in the NWT. the word "other" COMPLETELY changes the meaning of the scripture. The word 'other' does not clarify or make it 'easier to read', it changes the meaning!!
It is another example of a dilberate DECEPTION done to make it SEEM like the Bible supports JW teachings when in reality, this scripture clearly DOES NOT.
New International Version(©1984)
Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."New Living Translation(©2007)
And Jesus replied, "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise."English Standard Version(©2001)
And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”New American Standard Bible(©1995)
And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.International Standard Version(©2008)
Jesus said to him, "I tell you with certainty, today you will be with me in Paradise."Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But Yeshua said to him, “Amen, I say to you that today you shall be with me in Paradise.”GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995)
Jesus said to him, "I can guarantee this truth: Today you will be with me in paradise."King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto you, Today shall you be with me in paradise.American King James Version
And Jesus said to him, Truly I say to you, To day shall you be with me in paradise.American Standard Version
And he said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To-day shalt thou be with me in Paradise.Douay-Rheims Bible
And Jesus said to him: Amen I say to thee, this day thou shalt be with me in paradise.Darby Bible Translation
And Jesus said to him, Verily I say to thee, To-day shalt thou be with me in paradise.English Revised Version
And he said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in Paradise.Webster's Bible Translation
And Jesus said to him, Verily I say to thee, This day shalt thou be with me in paradise.Weymouth New Testament
"I tell you in solemn truth," replied Jesus, "that this very day you shall be with me in Paradise."World English Bible
Jesus said to him, "Assuredly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise."Young's Literal Translation
and Jesus said to him, 'Verily I say to thee, To-day with me thou shalt be in the paradise.' -
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What Can We Do to Show How We Cared about Oompa?
by Band on the Run ini know others have posted on the original thread.
several people, including myself, would like to do something concrete to show our concerns re: his treatment by the jw, and how important he was to all of us here.
i suggested a handwritten note, on behalf of the whole community here, flowers, and perhaps a donation to a charity that helps people get back on their feet.
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lisaBObeesa
maybe on one particular day, we could swamp his kingdom hall with condolence flowers....lots and lots of arrangements from all kinds of people ...people who cared, people the JWs didn't even know....just polite condolence flowers expressing LOVE....maybe with donations to suicide prevention organizations in his memory....
I'd like to see the kingdom hall covered in these flowers from all the country, from all over the world...
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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lisaBObeesa
His obituary INFURIATES me.
(ETA...I don't know. Maybe there is a good reason they went with the free two-line obit. I just know. When I read it, it just seems like just one more terrible indignity... But maybe there is a good reason. who knows. Still....it infuriates me.)
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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lisaBObeesa
Remember they have been taught shunning "is a loving provision"
If only Jehovah's Witnesses read the BIBLE.
Love is kind. (1 Cor 13:4)
Shunning is not.
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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lisaBObeesa
so sad.
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Conti update article: "Watchtower Loses Conti Appeal - But Fights On"
by cedars ini've published a new article on my blog explaining where things are up to with the candace conti case.. as well as detailing the latest developments, i also summarize the events since june and reveal some of kathleen conti's thoughts on what's in store for the watchtower.. here is the link:.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/watchtower-loses-conti-appeal-but-fights-on.
as always, if you can think of a way that the article can be improved, i would love to hear feedback!.
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lisaBObeesa
(personally, I don't think your motives were ever in question...)
