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  I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

  by Peterpanippleskin in

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  first of all, i am not a jw and i never will be, for my own reasons that i need not discuss further.

  however, i have a brother who is a jw and there is a serious problem that he is struggling with, which pertains to his horrible marriage, abusive wife, divorce and being "kicked out" of jw as a member... or whatever jw's call it.

  he has been married to a woman for 22 years.

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  Hello.....I am very sorry that your brother has suffered with this abuse for so many years! How awful. And indeed, the JWs often encourage people to stay with abusive spouses.

  Oh, and before I go further, I should mention that almost everyone one on this site is EX-Jehovahs Witness.

  While JWs believe that marriages should stay together, they will tollerate separation or divorce in cases of abuse. They may encourage the victim to stay, but if the victim chooses to go, the JWs will not disfellowship the victim for that.

  However, the victim is NOT free to re-marry unless their ex-spouse sleeps with someone else. Period.

  My mother left my abusive father. The JW Elders didn't like it, but accepted it. However, she could NEVER remarry someone else (Dad would never tell her if he had been with someone else...so 'in the eyes of God' the JWs believe the marriage is still binding.) She lived like that for some time and then one day decided to get married again. The JWs disfellowshipped her.

  Tell your brother he is not sinning by separating from this abuser....even by JW rules.

  I am sure someone will come up with some documentation from the JWs that you can show him to ease his mind.

  You will need that: JW documentation that it is ok to leave an abuser.

  -LisaBOBeesa
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  Does being a JW damage some children mentally?

  by Gill in

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  I think great damage comes from children not being allowed to be themselves.

  Their natural interests and talents being called 'bad.' The kids they want to be friends with called 'worldly' and being kept away from them. JW children have thier future mapped out for them (They will grow up to be JWs, PERIOD) and any deviation from that map will cause pain to the parents and the displeasure of GOD. (Talk about a head trip.)

  So JW kids grow up trying to squish their beautiful, individual personalities into this tiny square box. It is a sad thing to do, to give up all these little piece of yourself because they are bad. You know, bad pieces like sports, or art, .... We all want to be 'good.' And in order to do that as a JW, you have to give it ALL up. I mean, what part of yourself can you keep?? Maybe a fewm non-threatening personality traits, and that is about it.

  Even when we grow up and leave the JWs...finding those pieces of ourselves is difficult. The average 9 year old on the street knows more about themself than some of us know about ourselves.

  Because of how I was raised, I find that finding those piece of myself and develping them is still a fearful thing to do. I know in my mind that it is ok, but that deep programed, unconsious fear is there. That I shouldn't change. That I shouldn't stretch out. That I shouldn't draw any attention to myself. That growing is dangerous and a waste of time.

  That I shouldn't waste my time on me, that there are other more important things to be done......Those words, ' A waste of time' are always there in my mind...

  The programming is deep.

  -LisaBOBeesa
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  Anyone watching Survivor this time?

  by Mulan in

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  the finale is this coming sunday, already.

  i am pretty surprised how fast it seems to have gone this time.. anyone have a guess as to who will win?.

  i think twyla.............but last week i thought ami had it all wrapped up and she got voted off.

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  lisaBObeesa

  I wondered if she was a lesbian, but why do you think so?

  Ami is 'out.' It is well reported. That, and how she hugged and kissed her girlfriend.

  I didn't hear about Scout's knee until the finale. Sounds like she was in a lot of pain.

  How long until next season??
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  Anyone watching Survivor this time?

  by Mulan in

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  the finale is this coming sunday, already.

  i am pretty surprised how fast it seems to have gone this time.. anyone have a guess as to who will win?.

  i think twyla.............but last week i thought ami had it all wrapped up and she got voted off.

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  If Chris wins immunity, he will (dump) Eliza and take Scout and Twila to the final 3 because everyone hates scout and twila. Then he just has to win immunity (cross your fingers!) and get into the final 2 . Chris wins!

  I told ya, I told ya, I told ya

  What a fun-filled evil episode! I won a 1$ because I bet that Tough Twila would cry in her closing words to the jury. How evil of me.

  Sarge= I liked him durring the season, but at the jury what is up with that guy? He has been in the army or whatever for WAY too long. I think he is two tacos short of a combination plate! And when he said that to Twila about not wanting to be her friend, I thought it was so mean. Poor twila. He was so hurt that he lashed out. I swear to god he was in love with her!

  Twila=I started the season rooting for her. Then a few episodes ago, I thought she was turning into a hatefull you-know-what,,,,,and I started rooting for Chris. I guess I fell for the editing. Now I feel so bad for her, and I feel bad that I bet 1$ she would cry in her closing words to the jury. Well sorta. It was cool to win that dollar! I wish I had kept rooting for her all the way, even though I thought Chris would win. I am so disloyal! Oh well! She was CRUSHED. And I don't think just about the million dollars. She really took what those people said about her to heart.

  Ami=would make a great JW if she wasn't a lesbian! She thinks she is SOOOOOOOOO GOOD. The look on her face when she listened to the jury members answer her question was priceless. She was still stunned that she was voted out!

  Julie=I feel bad for her, too. Man, she was really hurt. But she should know it is a game! Plus I think Chris really did think of her as a sister because he said so when she wasn't around.

  Leanne=didn't like her. bleh.

  Eliza=good TV! So glad she didn't win! I feel kinda bad for her, too. She realized that in the whole entire game, not one person was her friend, not one person liked her. Everybody lied to her. Everybody. Except Twila....

  Chris = Fantastic game at the end, deserved to win! However, he owes it all to Twila who told him how to change the game to his favor.

  Scout=I started off rooting for her...then started to hate her...now I'm not sure.

  Chad=cool, amazing with his leg..didn't get to see much of his personality...too bad.

  Over all, a great season of stupid reality TV!
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  candy cane history.. glad my jw parents didnt know this!

  by candidlynuts in

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  most people think the candy cane is a meaningless decoration seen at christmas time.

  but, it is more than a sweet decoration.

  it symbolizes the true meaning of the season.. .

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  Isn't it amazing that if the JWs knew that they were about Jesus, they would object to candy canes?
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  Live aid...

  by fleaman uk in

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  well,ive just recently purchased the live aid dvd this weekend and its brought back some great memories of a truly great day of music.i remember it really affected me for some time after.i also remember it was a district convention day and i had a bad case of "hay fever"so couldnt go.. i thought queen and u2 stole the show and the dvd has confirmed that imho,but what a fine effort by mr geldof,who still works hard in the charity dept even today.its such a shame that the need is still there for third world charity but it is great that people care so much.it beats waiting around for some far off paradise.. i would highly recommend this dvd,yep,some great stuff on there.

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  1.Prequel [DVD Video] 2.BBC Television [DVD Video] 3.News Report [DVD Video] 4.Do They Know It's Christmas? [DVD Video] [Multimedia Track] (Band Aid) 5.We Are the World [DVD Video] [Multimedia Track] (USA For Africa) 6.Royal Salute [DVD Video] (Coldstream Guards) 7.Rockin' All Over the World/Caroline [DVD Video] (Status Quo) 8.Internationalists/Walls Come Tumbling Down [DVD Video] (Style Council) 9.I Don't Like Mondays/Drag Me Down [DVD Video] (Boomtown Rats) 10.Vive le Rock [DVD Video] (Adam Ant) 11.Dancing With Tears in My Eyes/Vienna [DVD Video] (Ultravox) 12.Only When You Leave/True [DVD Video] (Spandau Ballet) 13.All You Need Is Love [DVD Video] (Costello, Elvis) 14.Wouldn't It Be Good [DVD Video] (kershaw, Nik) 15.Your Love Is King [DVD Video] (Sade) 16.Roxanne [DVD Video] (Sting) 17.Against All Odds [DVD Video] (Collins, Phil) 18.Every Breath You Take [DVD Video] (Collins, Phil / Sting) 19.Hide and Seek [DVD Video] (Jones, Howard) 20.Slave to Love/Jealous Guy [DVD Video] (Ferry, Bryan) 21.Do They Know It's Christmas?/Come Back and Stay/Every Time You Go Away (Young, Paul) 22.That's the Way Love Is [DVD Video] (Young, Paul / Moyet, Alison) 23.Kids Wanna Rock/Summer of '69 [DVD Video] (Adams, Bryan) 24.Sunday Bloody Sunday/Bad [DVD Video] (U2)

  Disc 2

  1.Wouldn't It Be Nice/Good Vibrations/Surfin' USA [DVD Video] (Beach Boys) 2.Money for Nothing [DVD Video] (Sting / Dire Straits) 3.Sultans of Swing [DVD Video] (Dire Straits) 4.Madison Blues [DVD Video] (Thorogood, George / Destroyers) 5.Bohemian Rhapsody/Radio Gaga/Hammer to Fall/Crazy Little Thing Called L (Queen) 6.Ghost Dancing/(Don't You) Forget About Me [DVD Video] (Simple Minds) 7.TVS15/Rebel Rebel/Modern Love/Heroes [DVD Video] (Bowie, David) 8.CBC Ethiopian Famine Film [DVD Video] 9.Amazing Grace [DVD Video] (Baez, Joan) 10.Stop Your Sobbing/Chain Gang/Middle of the Road [DVD Video] (Pretenders) 11.Love Reign O'er Me/Won't Get Fooled Again [DVD Video] (Who) 12.Footloose [DVD Video] (Loggins, Kenny) 13.Bennie and the Jets/Rocket Man [DVD Video] (John, Elton) 14.Don't Go Breaking My Heart [DVD Video] (Dee, Kiki / John, Elton) 15.Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me [DVD Video] (John, Elton / Michael, George)

  
  

  Disc 3

  1.Holiday/Get into the Groove [DVD Video] (Madonna)

  2.Is This the World We Created [DVD Video] (May, Brian / Mercury, Freddie)

  3.Let It Be [DVD Video] (McCartney, Paul)

  4.Do They Know It's Christmas? (Finale) [DVD Video] (Band Aid)

  5.American Girl/Refugee [DVD Video] (Petty, Tom & The Heartbreakers)

  6.Paranoid [DVD Video] (Osbourne, Ozzy / Black Sabbath)

  7.Can't Fight This Feeling/Roll With the Changes [DVD Video] (Reo Speedwagon)

  8.Teach Your Children [DVD Video] (Crosby Stills & Nash)

  9.Living After Midnight/Green Manalishi [DVD Video] (Judas Priest)

  10.Just What I Needed/Heartbeat City [DVD Video] (Cars)

  11.The Needle and the Damage Done/Nothing Is Perfect (In God's Perfect Plan) [ (Young, Neil)

  12.Revolution [DVD Video] (Madonna / Stevens, Steve / Thompson Twins / Rodgers, Nile)

  13.White Room/She's Waiting/Layla [DVD Video] (Clapton, Eric)

  14.In the Air Tonight [DVD Video] (Collins, Phil)

  15.Union of the Snake/Save a Prayer/The Reflex [DVD Video] (Duran Duran)

  16.Imagine/Forever Young [DVD Video] (LaBelle, Patti)

  
  Disc 4

  1.Maneater [DVD Video] (Hall & Oates)

  2.Get Ready (Cos Here I Come) [DVD Video] (Hall & Oates / Kendricks, Eddie)

  3.Ain't Too Proud to Beg/My Girl [DVD Video] (Hall & Oates / Ruffin, David / Kendricks, Eddie)

  4.Just Another Night/Miss You [DVD Video] (Jagger, Mick)

  5.State of Shock/It's Only Rock 'N' Roll [DVD Video] (Jagger, Mick / Turner, Tina)

  6.Blowing in the Wind [DVD Video] (Dylan, Bob / Wood, Ron / Richards, Keith)

  7.We Are the World (Finale) [DVD Video] (USA For Africa)

  8.What You Need/Don't Change [DVD Video] [*] (Inxs)

  9.Why I Sing the Blues/Don't Answer the Door/Rock Me Baby [DVD Video] [* (King, B.B.)

  10.Reach Out and Touch [DVD Video] [*] (Ashford & Simpson / Pendergrass, Teddy)

  11.King of Rock [DVD Video] [*] (Run DMC)

  12.A World of Difference [DVD Video] [*] (Richard, Cliff)

  13.Overseas Contributors [DVD Video] [*]

  14.Dancing in the Streets [DVD Video] [*] (Bowie, David / Jagger, Mick)

  15.Documentary: Food and Trucks and Rock 'N' Roll [DVD Video] [*]

  I want this for Christmas now! Shoot, and I already mailed my letter to Santa.........
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  Anyone watching Survivor this time?

  by Mulan in

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  the finale is this coming sunday, already.

  i am pretty surprised how fast it seems to have gone this time.. anyone have a guess as to who will win?.

  i think twyla.............but last week i thought ami had it all wrapped up and she got voted off.

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  lisaBObeesa

  I think if it is down to Chris and Eliza, that Eliza will win. She has those girlfriends on the jury.

  Ok, here is why I think if it comes down to Chris and Eliza it will be a Chris win:

  Final Two: Chris and ElizaFinal Vote:

  Sarge -- Chris

  Chad- Chris

  Scout- Chris (She hates Eliza)

  Twila- Chris (She hates Eliza)

  Juile- Chris (she will find him more a better player than Eliza..has more respect for him.....But even if she votes Eliza, Chris already has enough votes)

  Ami- Eliza (she hates men, says she likes Eliza)

  Leann- Eliza (she's with Ami)

  The winner of Survivor: Vanuatu: Chris!
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  Anyone watching Survivor this time?

  by Mulan in

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  the finale is this coming sunday, already.

  i am pretty surprised how fast it seems to have gone this time.. anyone have a guess as to who will win?.

  i think twyla.............but last week i thought ami had it all wrapped up and she got voted off.

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  lisaBObeesa

  If Chris wins immunity, he will Eliza and take Scout and Twila to the final 3 because everyone hates scout and twila. Then he just has to win immunity (cross your fingers!) and get into the final 2 . Chris wins!

  or

  Eliza wins immunity, dumps Twila because she hates her, and goes to the final 3 with Chris and scout. Eliza wins the last immunity and would take Chris to the final two because she hates scout. Chris wins!

  I think the only way he can loose is if the first senerio happens and he doesn't win that last immunity. The Twila and Scout would go to the final two together and it would be one depressing episode....but the jury speaches would be priceless!!! (Think sue hawk)
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  for the smokers here...and former smokers

  by missy04 in

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  what is the most ridiculous things you have done for a cigarette?.

  i would have to say that walking three miles in very cold weather without really knowing where i was going..trying to find a gas station...and without a warm coat!

  !..yah that would be the dumbest thing i've ever done to get a cigarette...that was about..ohh..umm...three days ago.

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  lisaBObeesa

  ex-smoker here.

  When I was quitting, I threw away all the cigs in the house. I got to where I wanted a drag so bad I smoked the butts left in ashtrays around the house. It was disgusting. But it took the edge off.

  Yup, made the mistake of doing that as well. Although nothing compares to the time I settled for a menthol full flavored GPC...I think I blacked out just after I smoked it.

  Those butts I was smoking were better than a GPC! LOL!
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  Warm Welcome For exdub

  by under74 in

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  i liked your post exdub.

  i'm glad you can move on now.

  welcome to the forum.

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  lisaBObeesa

  WELCOME

  EXDUB!!!!!!!! Come on in and have some coffee and talk a while!