Bible highlights all the way!!!
Its the only part of the meetings which the bible is used solely!
:)
the theocratic ministry school..... well, let's see ... it's conducted by an elder who's stuck with the job and often doesn't want it.
the quality of the meeting keeps sinking over time as witlesses can't read well or explain more than a couple proof texts.
the "ministry" doesn't generate converts by itself, anyway..... the book study?
Bible highlights all the way!!!
Its the only part of the meetings which the bible is used solely!
:)
my name is tim, im 23, from the uk, and im currently a jw!.
ok... to cut a long story short... i love serving jehovah but ive begun now to embrace my sexuality as a gay man.. although im still attending the meetings, praying to jehovah and trying my hardest, i can no longer lie to myself about my sexuality.. i have had enough of feeling depressed and confused now - its killing me!!!.
does anyone else know what i feel like?
Thanks everyone for your comments! Im still looking into what you have said! In the end, i need to make the choice which is going to provide me with the happiness i need! I hope i can attain that happiness!
Thanks again! You have all been very helpful and consoling! :)
Tim x
has the watchtower ever rationalized their obsession with depilation or claimed there was a biblical basis for banning beards, or is it simply because jehovah's corporation/faithful and discrete slave says so?.
What a load of rubbish! When i was growing up as a JW, this was the only thing which halted my advancement!
I loved having a beard because it made me feel good! The amount of stick i got for it!
When i asked for a reason... i never got one which i felt was suitable!
Just man made procedure! Straining out the nat but gulping down the camel perhaps? I have seen that before!
Tim :)
this is what the guest speaker was saying at my wife's hall yesterday.
she and i was babysitting our niece and since she had three kids going to the hall with her (including my two daughters) i figured i'd go with her to help out.
they were rambuctious and wild to say the least.. while i was in the hallway with my youngest daughter, i continued to listen to the speaker talk.
Ding Ding Ding! Good comment! :D
this is what the guest speaker was saying at my wife's hall yesterday.
she and i was babysitting our niece and since she had three kids going to the hall with her (including my two daughters) i figured i'd go with her to help out.
they were rambuctious and wild to say the least.. while i was in the hallway with my youngest daughter, i continued to listen to the speaker talk.
Haha!!!
I understand all too well that the JW's love to preach how people, old and young, are going to die at Armageddon!
Its rather unchristian!!! I was baptised 3 years ago and have severe difficulties regarding my sexuality!
I simply dont believe that if i left, certain brothers and sisters could condemn me for my lifestyle (despite the fact that this is who i am, and i dont want to change it)! I am still being taught at each meeting that God is Love (James 4:8) and that he reads hearts (1 Samuel 16:7). HE UNDERSTANDS and loves each one individualy!
"If you dont progress you will die!!!" They simply dont know that! Laughable!
Tim :)
my name is tim, im 23, from the uk, and im currently a jw!.
ok... to cut a long story short... i love serving jehovah but ive begun now to embrace my sexuality as a gay man.. although im still attending the meetings, praying to jehovah and trying my hardest, i can no longer lie to myself about my sexuality.. i have had enough of feeling depressed and confused now - its killing me!!!.
does anyone else know what i feel like?
Thanks for the welcome everyone and thanks so much for your responses up to now! They have been very encouraging for me! :)
Thanks 'Heaven'! To me, the scriputres based upon love are the ones that i cling to the most. Im a very analytical and studious person. I accept the teachings of the JWs which are absolutely clear from a study of the bible. There are many things i dont agree with (eg. the faithful and discreet slave business). I suppose i could have my own ideas on what the bible teaches but i know that in the end God is Love and that he understands my feelings (and imperfections). I take comfort in that!
Thanks 'Mamalove'! Its an unfortunate predicament! I know what i am giving up, but i need to be happy, instead of lying to myself. The religion is a catalyst to serving Jehovah. I believe it is possible to serve him by other means (I would quite hope that the man i meet would also be a gay JW as he also would still want to uphold the teachings of Jesus. WISH ME LUCK ON THAT!!! Having said that, if there are many young gay JW's who are gay, i should find one of them! :p)
Thanks for all the links too everyone! I have read many of them and a number of them have brought me to tears! I wish i found this website months ago before i started being depressed!
Much love, Tim! :):):)
my name is tim, im 23, from the uk, and im currently a jw!.
ok... to cut a long story short... i love serving jehovah but ive begun now to embrace my sexuality as a gay man.. although im still attending the meetings, praying to jehovah and trying my hardest, i can no longer lie to myself about my sexuality.. i have had enough of feeling depressed and confused now - its killing me!!!.
does anyone else know what i feel like?
Hi everyone,
My name is Tim, im 23, from the UK, and im currently a JW!
Ok... to cut a long story short... I love serving Jehovah but ive begun now to embrace my sexuality as a gay man.
Although im still attending the meetings, praying to Jehovah and trying my hardest, i can no longer lie to myself about my sexuality.
I have had enough of feeling depressed and confused now - Its killing me!!!
Does anyone else know what i feel like? If so please give me some ideas and advice as i cant go on like this much longer!
Thanks, Tim x
this was the last song of the service meeting this week.
the new version sounds like a death march anthem.
the melody has changed and i think the words have also.. i truly used to like that song and it was one of the first song's i could sing as a kid.
Haha... Snakeface! I know exactly what you mean!
The brown book was AWESOME!!! Some brilliantly emotional songs! I play the flute and when we receieved the new book i couldnt wait to go through them all! I listened along and read the music as i went! Each page i turned i became more and more upset! :( Despite the odd new song which i do like, the majority of new songs are VERY depressing and not very good at all. Likewise, the older songs which they have kept, the changes have spoiled them, and also the new piano accompaniments at the meetings no longer have any feeling! It appears to me, the pianist (computer program?) playing the piano has the same level of emotion as a bar of soap! BORING!!!
Anyway, i still love playing the old songs! The new ones suck quite a lot! It was like yesterday in the WT, about showing our appreciation for the new songs! I love singing, i love music and i love Jehovah, but i cant show appreciation for music that i REALY DO NOT appreciate!
Tim
i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.
i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.
this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.
Thanks for the welcome People! :)
I have had a look at many websites over the past week! :)
I have found it particularly heartwearming reading others experiences and seeing how they came over their negative feelings.
Its such a strange feeling because i feel right in my heart, but according to JW's im not right. I suppose the heart is treachorous. Having said that, I have suffered a lot with my "confusion" and desires lately that i have become depressed. I need to sort it out. One person wrote very rightly that God is Love and he does not want me to suffer. Perhaps i will take the easy way out and go my own way, but I need to be happy! Dont get me wrong i love serving Jah and i love studying the bible (things which i will keep doing if I leave the JW's).
I also read an essay on that website about how homosexuality ISNT condemned in the bible. It was very well written but i still think some arguments in it where a bit stretched. I will further research it. Nontheless, i know that God is Love and that he forgives. Another good point: If my feelings are simply a form of ill imperfection, then God shouldnt condemn me just as much as he would condemn someone with cancer. Im pretty certain he understands my feelings. Even if he doesnt, id rather be happy now, than miserable forever (although i do believe in the paradise, these feelings will be fixed?).
Anyway, thanks for listening! :)
Feeling great since reading these posts.
If anyone out there has the same feelings and is going through this at the moment, please send me a message... its great to talk to someone with the same circumstances. :)
Tim x
i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.
i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.
this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.
Yes... i loved reading this!
Im going through it at the moment! I love the bible and i love God, but unfortunately i am having to deal with the same issue. I cant have both! :(
Are there any others out there who are currently dealing with this issue?
Thanks Josh for giving us the benefit of your experience!
Love, Tim