Posts by TimothyT

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SERIOUSLY is there one JW publication that you thought was good?

by TimothyT in

i liked the greatest man book.

i thought it was very informative and unbiased.

a good summary of the gospels.. .

TimothyT

Broken Promises: Ayyy.... i also enjoyed the articles on practical, Christian qualities. I think such things are good for anyone to study realy, and i dont think i could such how the GB could taint them. When i studied the gospels i came across many verses which kind of condemned the WTS. Its crazy when you read stuff like that and you see it RIGHT there. Makes you wonder why you never sawe it before.

Mindseye: The Mankind Search book was good. I remember reading it when i was young. It made me interested in other religions too. :)

Ding: Thats very true. To do a contextual study would be counterproductive for the WTS. In a way thats sad because it means they arnt interested in the history and context of the bible anymore, but they now are in a situation where they have to cover up and adjust teachings. They have lost the main reason for the bible i think. OOOH... I havnt picked up Galations in a while. May do it soon actualy. Thanks.

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SERIOUSLY is there one JW publication that you thought was good?

by TimothyT in

i liked the greatest man book.

i thought it was very informative and unbiased.

a good summary of the gospels.. .

TimothyT

Irondork... i did enjoy the Daniel book too. I love history and i enjoyed the way the Daniel book presented it all. I thought then and of definately think now that some of the JWs ideas of it were a little skewed. Perhaps i should do a study of the book of Daniel again and see what bible scholars such as Barnes and Clarke think about those prophecies. That would be interesting.

Cantleave: Yes... my dad often said the same. Why cant we have more verse by verse discussions. Reading the bible in context is good, but the org prefers the topical study approach which picks and mixes scriptures which can lead to bias and loss of context. :(

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SERIOUSLY is there one JW publication that you thought was good?

by TimothyT in

i liked the greatest man book.

i thought it was very informative and unbiased.

a good summary of the gospels.. .

TimothyT

Yes Dunlap wrote it. My dad loves that book. He said it was special and well written. Im sure Franz had a hand in it too. Probably a good reason to look at it then.

Eclectic: They are some good quotes. Its interesting isnt it that sometimes the society throws in something which condemns itself. We pick up on them straight away. I doubt the average JW does though. :(

Transhuman68: HAHA! You forgot door stop and car booster seat. Lol

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New here and....

by bushido8000 in

are there any jws on this site???

i think i may be in the wrong place.... why am i only seeing atheists and other denominations of christians?.

TimothyT

Yes, welcome to the forum. Its fab here. You can ask anything you want JW or non JW related and someone will have something to say. There are also lots of current JWs and non JWs here, and also lots of different perspectives from people who have experienced all sorts of things through life. I hope you enjoy it here and find it a useful and practical resource and encouragement like i did.

Timmy x

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SERIOUSLY is there one JW publication that you thought was good?

by TimothyT in

i liked the greatest man book.

i thought it was very informative and unbiased.

a good summary of the gospels.. .

TimothyT

I liked the Greatest Man Book. I thought it was very informative and unbiased. A good summary of the gospels.

(Yay... i know how to insert pictures now! )

Did you like at least one of the books, or did you think they were all trash?

Timmy x

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Does 2 John 10-11 encourage shunning ex JW's?

by TimothyT in

i was reading john's second letter before in my nlt bible and i came accross the scriptures used to back up the act of shunning former jw's.

in my bible it reads totaly contrary to the way the jw's say, so i decided to get out the old nwt bible which gives exactly the same ideas.

here are some of my thoughts:.

TimothyT

I was reading John's second letter before in my NLT bible and i came accross the scriptures used to back up the act of shunning former JW's. In my bible it reads totaly contrary to the way the JW's say, so i decided to get out the old NWT bible which gives exactly the same ideas. Here are some of my thoughts:

I think its interesting that John restates the need for true Christian love in v5 and v6 before he starts speaking about the main reason for his letter.

V7 gives us the context. John is warning against deceivers, who dont believe that Jesus is God's son and the saviour of mankind. The original greek word for deciever (planos) clearly refers to someone who is actively teaching that Jesus isn't God's son. It doesnt seem to mean those who passivly dont believe in Jesus. Hey, each to their own. :)

V9 logicaly continues, those pushing ahead of Jesus and not remaining in his teaching (i assume that being that he is the messiah) does not have God. V10 then says that to such ones we should not say a greeting to them. Again the greek word used (chairo) refers to wishing the person prosperity. I suppose John simply did not want Christians to encourage or wish such ones well in their task to decieve others, whilst at the same time showing love to them as reminded in v5 and v6.

I dont know if my thoughts are correct here, but if so, i see no real basis for the JW's practice of shunning former believers. In many cases, ex JW's certainly arent out to actively deceive others and therefore should not be so unlovingly shunned.

Can anyone correct me if im wrong. This is quite an interesting and important set of scriptures in the bible.

Timmy xxx

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9/11/2011 I will remember

by Mickey mouse in

not just as the 10 year anniversary of 9/11 but also as the date of the study of the most disgusting watchtower article i have ever read..

TimothyT

Wasnt it dreadful.

Instead of sitting through such bullsh** i spent the time in a nice baptist church and listened to them talking about Jesus Christ and how we can follow in his footsteps. It was MOST encouraging. :)

Timmy xxx

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The Meetings Really Suck Lately

by Pika_Chu in

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warning.....profanity ahead...wimps may want to leave this page.... perhaps it's stupid bringing this up when all you guys are up to speed with how the gb is full of shit anyway, but i just feel like complaining about it.

the borg is royally fucked up, and we need to call them out on it.. all the talks are about armageddon being close, closer than ever, etc.

you know, the usual crap...we've all heard a thousand times...puke puke.... then there's the added factor that everyone in my congo is actually convinced that they cannot miss even a single meeting.

TimothyT

How did I stay sane: I LEFT!

Seriously, i know it may be difficult, and it may involve a number of trials, but if you are suffering mentaly because of the borganisation (like i did), you MUST get out.

You CANNOT live this way.

The meetings have always been half bull. Sometimes you hear some good stuff from the bible there but all the crap about the FDS and the end of the world would really pi** me off if i was still there listening to it.

If you need any support just ask or send me a PM.

Timmy xxx

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Have Attended a Small community Church

by Reopened Mind in

totallyadd and i have been attending a small nondenominational community church.

it happens to be the same church that i attended as a small child.

as some of you may remember totallyadd was raised in the organization so this was his first experience going to church.

TimothyT

Yes, well done. :)

I did exactyl the same thing for the first time yesterday too. I have never been to a church other than the JWs before for a normal meeting or sermon, and i found it TOTALHY refreshing to listen about Jesus and be welcomed by people who are not interested in the kind of person you are.

Lovely.

Timmy xxx

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Am i worthy to partake of the bread and the wine?

by TimothyT in

i need to ask a serious bible based question regarding the bread and the wine that jesus passed around on the night of the passover.. i understand perfectly what these mean, and i understand their relevance, however im struggling to understand, after 15 years of indoctrination, if i am deserving to partake of them.

today at the baptist church, we were all offered the bread and the wine.

i wanted to partake but i still feel that i do not have the right to, as i am not of the chosen nation.

TimothyT

Hi everyone,

I need to ask a serious bible based question regarding the bread and the wine that Jesus passed around on the night of the passover.

I understand perfectly what these mean, and i understand their relevance, however im struggling to understand, after 15 years of indoctrination, if i am deserving to partake of them. Today at the baptist church, we were all offered the bread and the wine. I wanted to partake but i still feel that i do not have the right to, as i am not of the chosen nation. I will naturaly do research on the matter for myself and of course i will ask my papa, who in my opinion is a walking bible encyclopedia, but i just wanted some advice and information from here. So here is my question:

Am i worthy to partake of the bread and the wine?

I believe in Jesus, i appreciate his sacrifice, and even though im now a disfellowshipped JW, i want to follow Jesus as much as i can. However the JW teaching of needing to be of the annointed class is still lurking in the back of my mind and i could do with some logical and sound reasoning to show me that they are either nonsense, or correct.

Many thanks,

Timmy xxx