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  How truly happy are you?

  by Freeof1914 in

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  i am just curious to hear of some you who have left the org completely, how happy are you?

  in my situation i feel like i am on a precipice and about to make a leap into the unknown.

  since i have told my family elders and wife that i will mo longer go to the meetings or out on service i feel as if a load has been lifted.

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  TimothyT

  I am SUPER happy! Everything is perfect!
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  Baptism

  by new one in

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  i just wanted to ask a question as regards jw baptism.

  i already know that just before the actual baptism the soon to be jw has to answer 2 questions, but what i'd like to know is this: during the actual baptism do the jw's stick to matt 28:19 "baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit" ?.

  thanks in advance for any help.. i'd also like to know if it would be possible to speak privatly with one of the more experianced members.

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  TimothyT

  What a great question. I also asked the same thing to a sister in my congregation before I was disfellowship. I told her that I felt my baptism was invalid because it wasnt done in the manner that Jesus said. She told me that it was totaly correct, but I dont see how because it was done differently from what Jesus said.

  Timmy x
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  What Scriptural Support Is There For Believing in Second/Greater Fulfillments of Bible Prophecy?

  by JWB in

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  what scriptural support is there for believing in second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy?.

  this is a genuine equiry into where the idea of second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy originated.

  does it have definite scriptural support or is it simply an extra-biblical religious device thought up to try to make prophecies appear relevant to the modern age?

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  What a great post Vanderhoven! The very fact that the scripture says that no such tribulation would ever come again is quite something!
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  That Old Favourite: "What Would Jesus Do?"

  by BroMac in

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  we've all heard it, usually in response to something somebody thinks we shouldn't be doing.

  "would jesus do it?

  probably not - would he condemn me if i were to do it?

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  TimothyT

  Amen!

  I wish the JWs would base their teachings around Jesus. Things would be so much more pleasant!
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  That Old Favourite: "What Would Jesus Do?"

  by BroMac in

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  we've all heard it, usually in response to something somebody thinks we shouldn't be doing.

  "would jesus do it?

  probably not - would he condemn me if i were to do it?

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  TimothyT

  I think its a good expression to use and apply. Hehe.
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  What Scriptural Support Is There For Believing in Second/Greater Fulfillments of Bible Prophecy?

  by JWB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what scriptural support is there for believing in second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy?.

  this is a genuine equiry into where the idea of second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy originated.

  does it have definite scriptural support or is it simply an extra-biblical religious device thought up to try to make prophecies appear relevant to the modern age?

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  TimothyT

  I remember reading a book about Revelation. They spoke about those things Tornapart. I personally have no idea. Hehe. I have tried to reason through Revelation and I get the basic message. There are 4 main views of Revelations prophecies:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Religious_interpretations

  Historicist, which sees in Revelation a broad view of history;

  Preterist, in which Revelation mostly refers to the events of the apostolic era (1st century);

  Futurist, which believes that Revelation describes future events; and

  Idealist, or Symbolic, which holds that Revelation does not refer to actual people or events, but is an allegory of the spiritual path and the ongoing struggle between good and evil.

  I suppose no one really knows which time period they speak of. When i read this book, i considered really that the JWs take futurist perspective. Im inclined to agree in this case. But I do think the idealist perspective could be right in the sense that maybe the new earth and heaven are symbolic, etc.

  What do you think? :)
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  "Ooooohhhh I just CANT WAIT for Armageddon!"

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my congregation i could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt wait for armageddon to come.

  the way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited.

  you could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth.

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  In my congregation I could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt WAIT for Armageddon to come. The way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited. You could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth. One brother LOVED talking about it on the ministry. It was highly embarassing and quite wrong inb my opinion. What happened to the good news of the Kingdom?

  It always reminded me of this scripture in Proverbs 17:5: "He that is holding the one of little means in derision has reproached his Maker. He that is joyful at [another’s] disaster will not be free from punishment."

  I cant imagine why anyone would be happy at the deaths and calamities of others! In my opinion some of the JWs have some very wierd and almost sadistic views!
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  Does anyone else find these videos ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT? :D

  by TimothyT in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tfwzx4b5y.

  i just cant stop watching them.

  the creator really brings out all the small details about jws and makes them very funny.. :).

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  TimothyT

  Lol... love that last one. Its absolutely spot on. The guy at the end is literally not fazed that everyone around him has just been killed. Haha!
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  BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them

  by 00DAD in

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  i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.

  as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.

  *** w75 8/15 pp.

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  TimothyT

  Azazel... I AM EXACTLY THE SAME! Now when JWs see me in the street... i hope they see me and say, 'Now Tim is disfellowshipped he has become such a rebel and has the beard he always wanted as a JW!' Lol. How funny. I LOVED having a beard as a JW, and i got so annoyed when i was told to shave it off (which i rarely did)! :)
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  What Scriptural Support Is There For Believing in Second/Greater Fulfillments of Bible Prophecy?

  by JWB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what scriptural support is there for believing in second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy?.

  this is a genuine equiry into where the idea of second/greater fulfillments of bible prophecy originated.

  does it have definite scriptural support or is it simply an extra-biblical religious device thought up to try to make prophecies appear relevant to the modern age?

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  TimothyT

  What a great post with some great answers!

  I have often thought about this myself. Quite often I speak with a current JW sister who shares her bible research with me. I dont mind reading what she has to say as 99% of the time its encouraging, but it grates on me when she quotes from the societies publications directly. These usualy involve her affirming her beleif that a specific verse had a meaning back then, in Jesus day, and in our day. Recently she has been looking at Isaiah, and has sent me a number of the points from the Isaiah book. Some of the extended applications are CRAZY!

  As JWs we were brought up to believe that Matthew 24 was about the modern day, but Jesus WAS talking to his disciples about their day. Does it apply today? Should it be used to apply today? How on earth do we answer such questions?