Raptor Jesus is the one true saviour.
Pika_Chu
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Real Jehovah's Witnesses (djeggnog, StandFirm, etc), I'm trying to understand you.
by pirata ini'm an active jehovah's witness.
i've obviously lost my faith, that's why i don't feel bad posting here anymore.
i'd probably be disfellowshipped as a division causing, teaching, apostate, faster than you can say "maher-shalal-hash-baz" (isaiah 8:1), should it be found out that i was posting here and did not repent of the things i've said and stop participating in this forum.
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@pnt: if God's word is so clear about things, why do you have to explain things to us?
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A few Dawkins quotes to think about.
by AK - Jeff in"faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.".
"my last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and choking dust of september 11th 2001, followed by the "national day of prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous martin luther king impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the first place.".
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@Tammy: I think the whole chaos/order thing depends on what level of nature we are talking about. The universe as a whole doesn't seem to be very structured, but when we look closer at our galaxy and solar system, we see structure. We see a little disorder too, rocks flying around, stars blowing up, potential black holes swallowing everything around and all...and then, on Earth, it's kind of a toss-up between order and disorder as well. Then, we look at the divisions and levels of life (this, in itself, we can argue is rather sturctured)--environments to communities to populations to organisms to organ systems to organs to tissues to cells to organelles--then we end up at the molecular level, VERY structured, Atomic level is structured....subatomic...getting strange and beautiful--actual quark names, oddly enough :). Then there's the wonderful, chaotic world of quantum mechanics...a crazy, crazy level indeed, yet from all the disorder at the bottom of the hour-glass shape of organization (I made that up!), we see a point in the middle where there is a high level of organizational structure, and then we get Uber-Macro and look at the universe (we can even contemplate and include the multiverse), and, well, everything gets crazy again.
Not sure why I said all that...guess I just like to hear myself type in a British accent.
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A few Dawkins quotes to think about.
by AK - Jeff in"faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.".
"my last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and choking dust of september 11th 2001, followed by the "national day of prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous martin luther king impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the first place.".
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Pika_Chu
Ninja! Just dropping by to let you all know Raptor Jesus is coming in October to bring all of us atheists to this cool alternate dimension! (It's WAY better than heaven!!!)
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How the WTBTS creates atheists
by Nickolas ini am an atheist.
i arrived at this juncture in my life despite not wanting to.
when i first met the witnesses at 22 i was a seeker looking for answers to the question of life - in other words, prime cult target material.
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@Tammy: I define religion as belief in God (personal or impersonal), along with a set of rules, regulations, and rituals. I was thinking along the lines of how difficult it would be for someone to have something like that WITHOUT God, but it depended on my definition anyway.
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Microevolution vs Macroevolution (NOT an evolution vs creation debate)
by pirata ini've heard the distinction between microevolution and macroevolution a lot, especially from intelligent design arguments.
microevolution being defined as changes or adaption within a species, and macroevolution being changes from one species to another.
my impression is that there really is no such meaningfule distinction between macro and micro in the modern scientific sense of evolutionary theory.
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@Pirata: that is correct. Whenever speciation occurs, it is macro. Anything smaller is micro. The accumulation of small changes with time may eventually lead to macro (speciation), but it isn't a necessity (unless environmental pressures push it).
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Could Christians please respond; Is there a penalty for rejecting Jesus?
by nicolaou in.
hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on god and/or christ what will become of me?.
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@PSac: I didn't say it was invalid, I just said I would scrutinize such a phenomenon.
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Could Christians please respond; Is there a penalty for rejecting Jesus?
by nicolaou in.
hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on god and/or christ what will become of me?.
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@godrulz: you are backing your case up with more assumptions. Prove to me plate tectonics is evidence of creation. Oh yeah, and if something can't come from nothing, then I guess God can't make anything either. What do YOU think he made the universe out of? Nothing? Were the materials already there? One more thing: please distinguish between macro and micro evolution. Please let me know YOUR definition of those two things, so I can be sure we are on the same page.
@Psac: yes, we ask for it as proof, because we do NOT believe god has revealed himself to humanity. Not through his "creation," not through writings, and certainly not through his silence. When all that fails, what else can one look forward to from god, if he exists?
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How the WTBTS creates atheists
by Nickolas ini am an atheist.
i arrived at this juncture in my life despite not wanting to.
when i first met the witnesses at 22 i was a seeker looking for answers to the question of life - in other words, prime cult target material.
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@Tammy: I'm thinking the thought of God and religion are the same thing. You can have God without religion, but not religion without God. You said earlier that belief comes before religion, and I partly agree on that. Religions are evolved from beliefs and are the sum of beliefs regarding god. I think the idea that someone bigger than everyone else existed and had command over the elements and who decided the ultimate fate of everything was a good tool for ancients to use control and law enforcement (laws are better obeyed if someone believes it came from god and that severe punishment ensues for infractions. Plus, there's the whole "God sees everything you do and knows your motives" part of that whole thing).
Reading your post on page 4, regarding the notion that God exists because he is believed in, I also partially agree. I mean, the fact that people believe in something doesn't make it real in a physical sense, but God indeed exists in the minds of believers (at the very least, he is a theoretical concept). Thoughts exist, but not physically. I think God is a thought and a state of mind, but not a real BEING, though. Commenting on posts further down that page, I disagree regarding the "in the spirit" philosophy. But that's simply because I don't believe in spirits.
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Could Christians please respond; Is there a penalty for rejecting Jesus?
by nicolaou in.
hell is pretty much out of vogue these days so if this rabid atheist decidedly turns his back on god and/or christ what will become of me?.
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Holy crap. I leave for a day and all this fundie crap again?
@snowbird: They're coming, seriously? Well, just so you know, I'll leave the door open for God. I just won't expect him to come by.
@watersprout: in the case that god would reveal himself to me, I would question it. I would be skeptical as to whether such a thing really happened. If it turned out to be verified and undeniable, sure, I would embrace God. But personal revelation isn't very convincing.
@godrulz: the thing is, if we say the notion that God is not real is something made up by Satan, we have to prove Satan is a real person. Evidence first, then conclusions.
@cofty: I totally agree. The "watch" analogy is getting extremely old. The thing is, we see watches and conclude they must be made by men. We don't see watches reproducing, adapting to changing environments, growing on trees, forming due to plate tectonics, etc. No, those things are natural and have natural explanations. No supernatural explainations are necessary to explain NATURE!!!
I also agree that religion is the perfect behaviour control mechanism. Not just behaviour, but thoughts. If God will punish us for being atheists, when we value reason above blindness, like I said before, he would be a very cruel being, one who only loves his creation conditionally. Such a God is unworthy of worship, for he is no better than wicked humans.