Xander:
Your on!
I used to this with haiku and poems, but it was a bit unwieldy with the latter.
For those who aren't in the know:
http://thewordshop.tripod.com/renga.htm
One thread, coming right up...
Xander:
Your on!
I used to this with haiku and poems, but it was a bit unwieldy with the latter.
For those who aren't in the know:
http://thewordshop.tripod.com/renga.htm
One thread, coming right up...
my biggest question about jw is regarding the 144,000 from revelations.
how could john know exactly how many people were there?
how did he know that they were representing the 12 tribes of israel?
The bottom line is that the number is symbolic.
More than 144,000 are involved.
It has been retained as a way for the Governing Body of JW's to keep a monopoly on the control of many lives.
i heard calvinist theology and jw beleifs are very similair, including aggresive door to door preaching, limited number go to heaven, exclusion of non-members and isolation, etc.
anyone fill me in more?
im sick and feel too blechy to research it myself.
bboy:
I just realised that your question was only partially addressed.
1. aggresive door to door preaching
2. limited number go to heaven
3. exclusion of non-members and isolation
In answer, to the best of my knowledge:
1 - They do operate some outreach, but it isn't comparable to the "aggressive" JW style preaching. Usually it is an offer to pray with the household.
2 - They don't put a number on it.
3 - The church may restrict one's from going forward to the Lord's Table, for fear of the risk of profaning it. Other than that there is little comparable to the censure experienced in the JW's.
Members are those who have been baptised by a Christian denomination (not JW or Mormon), have made an open profession of their faith in Jesus Christ as their saviour, and have gone forward to the Lord's Table. Anyone else, who attends, are called adherents.
Some adherents have been baptised (perhaps Christened) and would make a profession of faith but, for reasons best known to themselves, have not "gone forward".
Of course all the foregoing may have variance in differant areas.
Calvinism covers quite a number of Reformed denominations.
i heard calvinist theology and jw beleifs are very similair, including aggresive door to door preaching, limited number go to heaven, exclusion of non-members and isolation, etc.
anyone fill me in more?
im sick and feel too blechy to research it myself.
Hi Jay,
I just read your page.
I'd like to email you, but your address is locked. Would you mind emailing me?
[email protected]
LT
ok, this post isn't out to prove anything, other than i've got too much time on my hands, which alot of you know that already.. over my morning coffee this morning i decided to read the section of the bible dealing with nimrod and the tower of babel.
i have two bibles at home the nwt and the new american standard.
heres what th nwt says at gen 10:9.
Just because some commentators, and the Targums, support the idea that the meaning is "opposition", doesn't mean that liberties may be taken with the text.
The NWT is supposed to be a literal version, not an interpretive one.
If they wanted to support that idea they should merely have printed a Watchtower on it, or written a commentary.
is it still through his stomach like my mom taught me?
come on guys fess up....do you want a woman who can cook?
personally i love cooking...something about being in a hot kitchen...kneading bread...the way it feels under your hands...then sticking it in a hot oven and watching it rise...slathering butter all over it and eating it with your fingers...uuummm is there anything better?
Perry:
Have you been watching "Flashdance", again?
SYN:
Nice job, very neat, if a bit icky.
Now, don't try this at home, kids!!!
I just watched 'Matrix'
But since I'm an elder's son
I get no reproof!
ROFL
This one really got me laughing. Thanks, Xander.
A rainy morning!
Oh, how I long for the sun,
Some heat on my bones.
DungBeetle Arrives,
Digging up the dirt and turds.
Run, Watchtower, Run!
i've argued before in this forum that mark wanted to have jesus seem to be the messiah whose existence he believed--or pretended to believe--was prophesied, foreshadowed, or prefigured, by persons and events found in scripture, so he scoured the writings of the prophets for these stories, and adapted them to fit jesus.
i believe the striking parallels below show almost conclusively that mark's story about jesus stilling the storm was adapted from jonah, and is fictional.. in jonah, a violent storm threatens a ship on which jonah sleeps, so mark made a violent storm threaten a ship on which jesus sleeps.
in jonah, the apprehensive sailors waken jonah and question his cavalier attitude toward the danger, so mark made his boat's captain apprehensive also, and had him, too, waken jesus and question him about his seeming lack of concern.
Tenuous reasoning at best. More like 1 + 1 = 23.
Why would people who knew the OT, and the story of Jonah, try to embellish it?
I am unaware of any tradition that places the Jonah account as a prediction on what would happen to the Messiah.
Labelling a theory as "almost conclusively", is most certainly not a rational argument.
By all means disbelieve, but why bring in spurious material?
You are discrediting a story that you have made up, as if this somehow undermines what others believe.
I don't think you'll find many that believed what you are suggesting, in the first place.
cellomould:
Getting discouraged, already? The thread has barely begun.
As for trusting intentions, it's nigh on impossible to even trust your own, let alone anyone elses!
i have a friend, who since i left the wt, has been writing to me, and trying his best to remain a friend, in spite of how i feel about the wt.
i had avoided the issue, up until now.
although i cannot post his emails here, i can however post my email to him.
Hi Zev,
Tenderly done.
I would suggest that the phrase "i am ceasing to be involved in the faith" may likely be taken out of the context in which you placed it, in relation to the Website.
I hope you retain the friendship, if that is your wish.
You and Gwen are in my prayers,
LT