hi folks,.
i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.
i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.
Just to simplify your questions, although others may prefer them phrased a different way:
1. Do you believe the bible is the word of God?
2/3. Do you believe that Jesus is your Lord and Saviour?
4. Do you, on reflection, realise the benefit of associating with fellow Christians?
hi folks,.
i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.
i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.
Clash:
To your mind, at what point does one become saved?
(being effectually called, justified, adopted, sanctified, etc.)
Is it the point at which they:
a) exercise saving faith.
b) start delving into the living word.
c) accept certain doctrines.
d) attend church.
Is it not at the point they exercise saving faith?
Are they not at this point ajoined to the body of Christ?
Are they not at this point our spiritual siblings?
Your thread was entitled "X-JWs Who are now bible Christians".
Those who have contributed, and expressed their faith in Christ, have already answered three of your four archaically structured questions.
Whether, or not, they have taken the step of attending a church may have little relevance to their profession, at this point.
You surely haven't forgotten the fact that the conditioning that many received as JW's will have affected their view of church?
I know of many Christians who have made incontrovertible professions of faith, yet take their fellowship to small non-denominational groups, rather than to churches.
For some it takes quite a leap of faith before they can even take that step.
some questions, if they have been asked before, i have not seen the thread.. how long did you study with a witness, before you entered the jw .
religion, how long before being baptized?.
( i was raised in the "truth" and baptized at 16.).
I vaguely remember having a family study when I was a young child, and the occasional attempts at it, when we were older (My dad was appointed an elder when the arrangement came in in '72).
I had two studies with my dad, when I came mid-puberty (now THAT was embarrassing - more for him than me).
Other than that, I never had one.
okay, weve lost gerrard - that's the biggest blow in my book - but beckham seems almost up to speed.
do we have any chance of making it to the 2nd round?.
i think nigeria are more of a threat than sweden who we should beat.
Will they get out of the group?
I think it unlikely.
If they do, the odds are on them getting knocked out of the next round by France.
It'll be a major miracle if "football's coming home!"
But, as has often been quoted... it's a funny old game!
he is a "babe magnet" .
yes, those that met me over the weekend at the silentlambs vigil know that in person i am a shy and reserved type.
when it came to picture taking time..who could resist.
ROFLMAO
This is a great thread.
It's nice to put a few faces to names, too.
hey - where is fred hall?
i know it probably takes him a looooong time to read all of the posts here concerning dateline, so maybe his comments are forthcoming.
or, there was a big troll meeting about the dateline program, & he's busy taking notes on how to spout new company lines for the wt!
Where ya bin Fred?
We missed your horny little face .
i just spoke on the phone to amazing (jim whitney) who is in intensive care in a chicago hospital.
on monday he had a major heart attack, had a stint put in an artery to unblock things and may have bypass surgery.
he's comfortable enough right now, but of course will have to make some big lifestyle changes.
Thanks for the update Cass.
Get well soon, Jim.
You're in our prayers.
hi folks,.
i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.
i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.
Six:
So very true, and you don't know how much I have learned from them.
It's probably why I'm so protective of them.
Clash:
Again you judge me, and again you try to impinge on my Christian liberty.
Re-read your last post and see if you can see what I am refering to.
hi folks,.
i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.
i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.
NOW we're getting somewhere (I hope).
The church is, indeed, a place where we can be helped to mature. That is one of the prime benefits of fellowship.
The coal that lies outside of the fire is the one that will most quickly go out.
This, however, is not a church. It's an online meeting place for thousands of people who have been hurt and damaged by an "evil slave".
There are many who have come to a recent knowledge of Christ, and have already taken this vital step of seeking knowledge beyond the falsehood of the cult they engage(d) in.
That you included yourself, in the text on self-examination, is encouraging. Up till now your comments were very direct, and abrupt. I hope this means you are learning.
Let me give you another example of why I took umbrage at your comments.
Plmkrzy wrote:
"Someone who is TRULY called upon IMHO would not spout such hateful things. I wasn't there myself but based on everything I have read about him and based on what I know in "MY" heart and "MY" personal relationship with him, Jesus did not teach this way."
Is that not possibly an early profession of faith?
"My personal relationship with him (Jesus)"
It's certainly not the words of a JW.
Now if it is, does Plmkrzy deserve encouragement and milk, or the "deeper things"?
Further, is this the time or place to browbeat and upset her?
Therein lie the dangers of judging anyone, especially on a board like this, where so much can be read into the text.
You have a zeal for our Lord, and for the evangelising of the gospel, but you REALLY need to adjust your methods if you are to effectively use that gift.
Edited to note that I took a little too long to submit this post. Darned distractions!!!
hi folks,.
i'm just sort of taking role call to all those x-dubs who are now brothers and sisters in christ.
i think it is wise for us to rise up and be counted so that we know who each other are.
Hillary:
"All this just seems to underline a growing feeling that the worst Christians are always Christians."
~sigh~
Just the kind of impression that this kind of thread generates.
Another nail in the coffin of the online pulpit.
Hmmmm - pessimist / optimist?
Surely, by the same token, the best Christians are always Christians, too?
