who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
WAC:This from the guy with a blowup doll and a cut and paste attitude to Fundamentalist Christian websites?
Caedes:
As I have stated many times, I mean only that scientific enquiry starts with the imagination to find something to explore and quantify. If scientists lose this imaginative aspect of their profession then we are condemned to just catalogue the natural world, and might as well give up Quantum science right now...
The mantra should be "what if...?"
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
MrsSmith:Its an interesting dual standard, isn't it? Its one that I constantly combat. As you'll be well aware, I'm always up to be challenged but it can get a little tedious at times. I'm glad that this thread has been treated with the tolerance and respect that it deserves
did anyone watch this documentary about westboro baptist church?
so what did louis theroux make of the phelpses after three weeks?.
louis theroux.
The shunning thing is deplorable and marks them out as a cult. In fact that's the primary secular objection I have against the WTS (my primary spiritual/theological one being their denigration of Christ).
The documentary clearly identified "Gramps" as the instigator of a generational hate campaign. It seems that the pickets are the catalyst for letting the hate-filled group alterego out, though, as generally their behaviour was normative.
i usually fast three to four times a year, i am going on my third day now.
i get tremendous health benefits from it as i purge my body of impurities that we eat, drink and otherwise.
i feel much clearer mentally and physically.. has anybody else ever fasted, for how long, how did it help you and what did you do?.
Rarely, but generally I don't discuss my personal devotional practises.
i am reading the bible for the first time.
i was df'd in 1976 and lived my whole life thinking the jws have the truth and i just could not live up to the standard and was doomed to die at the big a without question.
until i found jwd 31 years later.
UnDFed:
Sorry to tell you this, but you've lost sight of love. 1Cor.13 (esp v13), also 1John.4.
So, are you saying that the truth about who God is, is just a "squabble" that's not very important? Are you saying we shouldn't worry that much about it because it divides us instead of unites us?
That's exactly what I'm saying. I don't force anyone to agree with me. I let go of dogma when I left the WTS. The simplicity of faith doesn't include an indepth understanding of the Trinity. If you say it does then I'll condemn you for putting a stumbing block in front of the brethren...
My question to you, LittleToe, is this: Can a person receive eternal life without believing that Jesus is The Son of God? But, can we just believe that Jesus is any kind of "son of God," or did the Apostle John have a specific meaning in mind when he wrote that we must believe that Jesus is The Son of God? If he did have a certain, specific meaning in mind, doesn't that mean we have to believe that Jesus is The Son of God the same way that John did? Did John preach Jesus was a "son of God" like the created angels or created humans are, or did he preach Jesus as The Unique, One-And-Only Begotten Son of The Father who has the same Nature as The Father -- Very God of Very God?
You're one mixed up chickadee. Stop putting the cart before the horse!
You haven't a clue what John had in mind, and he's been dead for 1900 years and wasn't the most profuse of writers. He never used the statement "Very God of Very God". If he had it might have cleared a few things up. I'm a Trinitarian, as yourself, but I know that I didn't believe it when I was converted - it came later as I believe my mind was enlightened on scripture - my starting point was simply acknowledging that Jesus was far more than I had been raised with as a JW and a growing desire to pray to him. If you want to raise up high hurdles for folks then prepare to be lambasted, from scripture if necessary...
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
Glitter:
He's been dead for nearly 1400 years, but only lived to the mores of his time period. Judging him by modern day standards is ridiculous. The chances are that you don't have to go too far back in your own family tree to find someone who married an under 16 year old. Do I need to condemn you the way that you are condemning others?
Kerj:Unless you want to wander off at all tangents, it pays to concentrate on one thing at a time, doncha think?
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
I stand further corrected.
Age of consent was raised from 10 to 12 in the USA from: 1876 = 131 years ago.
Age of consent was finally raised to 16 in California from: 1897 = 110 years ago.
Suffrage, whereby women were finally allowed to vote, was: 1947 = 60 years ago.
The latter date is in the lifetime of quite a number of members of this Board. No doubt the Midle East will eventually catch up, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't all that many years behind the West in social ethics.
The age of consent in Canada is 14, with plans to increase it to 16 with clauses for near age relationships. Mexico is 12 and Japan 13. Current Worldwide laws are as follows: http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
Tis just a thought, for those who arbitarily see various countries as being barbaric (some think the reverse).
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
WAC:I know you can do better than that. Why don't you try entering into discussion instead of blowing it off with a sarcastic one-liner...
Kerj:Aren't we all on the pathway of life, which takes many twists and turns? For some that means exploring various religions from the inside and out.
The moment we stagnate we might as well be dead, IMHO, for that is not how life evolves and acts.
thankyou so much for all the good wishes you have sent us in the last few days, trev has been printing up the emails, pms and threads, and bringing the cards to show me every day, and i get a lift every time i see him coming in with more of your lovely messages to read.. it's been a tough time for both of us, and it won't get any easier.
i am dreading chemo, to be honest, but i have to bear it, as i would anything that gives me hope.
but that's for monday, and i am going to enjoy myself as much as i can this weekend.
{{{hugs}}}
who is merry?
i was born in 1965, the same year that malcolm x was assassinated.
my father had committed suicide a few months into my mother's pregnancy so we lived with her parents until she married again when i was about 18 months old.
Oh, that's interesting. In the USA the age of consent was generally 10-12 until 1885, when it was lobbied by women reformers and social purists to raise it to 16. That's only 122 years ago...
Kerj:
Glad we're on the same page now
Kid:
For a relevant example, people have claimed "spiritual experiences" for as long as there have been people - FACT. Science has not yet empirically proven their source, though there are some excellent and plausible hypothesise.
is Merry going to hell?
To take a very strict Calvinist approach: Not likely, she already stated that she became a Christian at some point in her journey. You don't lose that status by becoming a Muslim.
