Have a good trip!
Lizard
goodbye!
(actually that wasnt too hard..) .
i'm of to cancun day after tomorrow and i may be too busy to get on before then so see ya in about a week!!
Have a good trip!
Lizard
i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.
this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.
my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.
Funky,
I don't think much of the NWT because...well...quite frankly I'm not sure who all the translaters were who put it together.
Why do they keep that a secret?
I do know that they used some of Johannes Gruebber's translations...and believe me...that is a big enough deterent for me.
Their translation is all smoke and mirrors if you ask me ;)
Peace,
Lizard
i am looking for more scriptures that can prove to a jehovah witness that god is jesus, and jesus is god.i found only one verse so far in 1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.
this is the true god, and eternal life.. if you know more scriptures that say directly that god is jesus please tell me the verses the jhw will see plainly that jesus is no way an angel, and he is jehovah god almighty.. my friend said if i can prove by the bible only that jesus is god he will leave the jhw society, and he will know that they are teaching lies and they would be to him a dogma religious sect.
my friend gave me a booklet called should you believe in the trinity?, and is jesus christ the almighty god.
Evangelist,
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society says that in Rev. chapter 1 "Alpha and Omega" is the distinction given to Jehovah God.
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
In the same chapter they claim that "First and Last" is the distinction given to Jesus Christ.
17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
Looking back to Rev. 22:13 the "First and Last" and the "Alpha and Omega" are referring to ONE being.
13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
The following chapters are Rev. 1 and 22 in their entirety with the specific verses highlighted:
I havent heard a good arguement against this evidence yet ;)
Revelation 1Prologue
1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw--that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
Greetings and doxology
4 John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits [1]
5 before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
6 To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
7 Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
One like a Son of Man
9 I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. 10 On the Lord's Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, 11 which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."
12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone "like a son of man," [2] dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
19 "Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later. 20 The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels [3] of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
Revelation 22The River of Life
1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6 The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."
Jesus Is Coming
7 "Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"
10 Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near. 11 Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."
12 "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. 14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
20 He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming soon."
Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God's people. Amen.
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are you sure that would keep them away???.
lizard
Are you sure that would keep them away???
Lizard
i just wanted to share the following personality test with all of you: .
i've found it to be extremely interesting and helpful in my relationships with those of different personality types.
http://www.davideck.com/links/keirsey1.html.
Pierced,Myself,Itsjustlittleoldme,LDH,SpiceITup,VeniceIT and me(Lizard)
Am I the only male ENFP here? *blushes
...Wow...for only making up 3% of the population there sure are alot of ENFP's here.
Spaz...you are welcome...I used to think that I was the only person that was interested in this sort of thing...
guess I was mistaken ;)
Lizard
Edited by - LizardSnot on 11 June 2002 14:28:46
i just wanted to share the following personality test with all of you: .
i've found it to be extremely interesting and helpful in my relationships with those of different personality types.
http://www.davideck.com/links/keirsey1.html.
I knew I liked you Ven ;)
Lizard
Edited by - LizardSnot on 11 June 2002 9:21:43
i just wanted to share the following personality test with all of you: .
i've found it to be extremely interesting and helpful in my relationships with those of different personality types.
http://www.davideck.com/links/keirsey1.html.
yes spaz...I'm a romantic ;)
all about opposing the devil.
same lines as usual.
same pep talks as usual.
OMG...how did you sit thru that?
It makes me gasp to think of those long freakin' assemblies.
I have alot of respect for your patience
Lizard
i think that any job that involves customer service or dealing with the public really sucks!
i used to be a bank teller for 4 years, i finally got fired for letting this one obnoxious customer really have it!
some of the worst type of customers were the ones who left their brains who knows where.
I worked a second job in a magazine bindery for...get this....one night!
I had a day job as a draftsman and had this crazy idea to make more money by working 3rd shift...
They showed me how to check the edges of the mags for uneven cuts and to see if the staples were in right.
Well at first, the job seemed easy....real light work.....but after a while the coating on the magazines started to make my fingers and thumbs slippery to where I had to squeeze really hard to keep the mags from slipping out of my hands....like most jobs I've ever had...I worked my a$$ off and had nothing to show for it but a 35 dollar shift and thumbs that were sore for 6 months afterwards.
I also wasted 4 years of my life working in a non union grocery store.
Lizard
Come back Dee Dee
****Lizard****