Good to see you again Hyghlandyr,
I hope all is well.
Lizard
i will be in wooster tomorrow morning sometime.
if anyone wants to contact me, feel free.
post here in reply and i will make arrangements to meet you...in confidence of course.. hugs to all.
Good to see you again Hyghlandyr,
I hope all is well.
Lizard
no that is not a description of a piece of rear-anatomy (i don't want to get booted again <g>).
rather it is the rage now.... please check out http://www.leftbehind.com/ and take a look.
the reason i bring this up is because 3 different people i know (not xjws) are all into this "stuff" now.
Xander,
You make a good point *biting his tongue :)
The only ones I know of are those mentioned in the bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul..etc....
Those other historians are both liars as that has been 'firmly' established ;)
Did the disciples exist? If Jesus didnt exist...who's to say the disciples did. All of them but John died as martyrs...how convenient for those lying Christians. *bastards
That whole new testament is some elaborate story ;)
Kind of like the wizard of oz...where Dorothy befriends the tin man, scarecrow and lion and they all travel together for 3 years.
What's even more kewl is how within the story...Dorothy tells stories to set examples for her new friends. Of course Dorothy was foretold by other stories...stories that comes from other authors.
This has to be the biggest hoax in history...because it has spanned some 3000-4000 years. What is really kewl about this hoax is that Jews and Muslims have also bought into it. *they both recognize Christ as a prophet who once walked the earth.
If you dont believe that...just ask the guy at this restaurant down my street. He is a muslim named *sounds like i' ee' sah' this is translated to be Jesus. I know this because his friends are always kidding him about it. Just yesterday...Abu asked me if I was still waiting on Jesus...LOL...he said that because he knows I'm a Christian and he was giving Iesa hell because he was making my food slowly.
*sorry about the tangent
I still cant really prove anything...but this is fun Xander <g>
Lizard
no that is not a description of a piece of rear-anatomy (i don't want to get booted again <g>).
rather it is the rage now.... please check out http://www.leftbehind.com/ and take a look.
the reason i bring this up is because 3 different people i know (not xjws) are all into this "stuff" now.
For one to say that 1st century Christians didnt believe in a real person called Christ is like you or I saying that Abraham Lincoln never existed. Some of those people had the opportunity of having met him. Maybe those people who called themselves Christians back then...never existed either.
Lizard
no that is not a description of a piece of rear-anatomy (i don't want to get booted again <g>).
rather it is the rage now.... please check out http://www.leftbehind.com/ and take a look.
the reason i bring this up is because 3 different people i know (not xjws) are all into this "stuff" now.
So is it possible that a large group of people in the first century that called themselves Christians were basing their worship on someone that never existed?
LizardSnot
i mean cmon priests wear outfits so do nuns,archbishops,etc etc surely the jws could start there own fashion,i mean all the the sisters could make them in bethel im sure they would be very happy.so i wonder what uniform would suit a jw, "suggestions would be very nice".maybe something like darth vader wears
1000 were asked to leave brooklyn bethel (actually, this includes the farm and patterson) "voluntarily!
" only 6 replied to the request in the last 3 weeks.
it looks like the "waters" of bethel are drying up, or rather, their revenues are drying up!
The legal fees and court costs are taking away from operating expenses.
Shucks!
Lizard
i have a friend that is of the anointed and dear to my heart.
"i do feel it is time to reveal my heavenly hope.
i am a young anointed jehovah's witness and i have long observed what is going on in the organization.
I also have a heavenly hope. But that doesnt make me one of the 144,000 Jews of the 12 tribes of Israel :(
I'm not even a good apostate since I was never baptized...
I cant do anything right ...sniff....
Lizard
i am now anointed.
the lady of the lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft my anointment in the form of a sword from the bosom of the water signifying by divine providence that i, dragon, was now anointed.
no i did not do it by exploiting the workers!
King Arthur got his sword 'Excaliber' from the 'Lady of the Lake'
that's all I know
Lizard
no that is not a description of a piece of rear-anatomy (i don't want to get booted again <g>).
rather it is the rage now.... please check out http://www.leftbehind.com/ and take a look.
the reason i bring this up is because 3 different people i know (not xjws) are all into this "stuff" now.
Here is something I found with regards to historical references to Christ's existence.
Tacitus was a Roman historian writing early in the 2nd century A.D. His Annals provide us with a single reference to Jesus of considerable value. Rather frustratingly, much of his work has been lost, including a work which covers the years 29-32, where the trial of Jesus would have been had he recorded it. [Meie.MarJ, 89]
Here is a full quote of the cite of our concern, from Annals 15.44. Jesus and the Christians are mentioned in an account of how the Emperor Nero went after Christians in order to draw attention away from himself after Rome's fire of 64 AD:
But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.A survey of the literature indicates that this citation by Tacitus has not been given enough regard, having often been overshadowed by the citations in Josephus (see next entry). Respected Christian scholar R. T. France, for example, does not believe that the Tacitus passage provides sufficient independent testimony for the existence of Jesus [Franc.EvJ, 23] and agrees with G. A. Wells that the citation is of little value. It is unfortunate that France so readily agreed with Wells' assessment. An investigation into the methods and background of Tacitus, as reported by Tacitean scholars (whose works, incidentally, France does not consult), tells us that this is an extremely reliable reference to Jesus and for early Christianity.
http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_01_01_01_TC.html
Lizard
i was asking because look at all the problems religion are causing :september 11,middle east crisis,waco disaster,clashes in ireland,paedophiles priests,suicide bombings,papal system etc.but think if masses of people protested it my not ban religion completely,but it could make a start to banning it.but the trouble again is that a lot of people want religion even if it is full of @*~t,yeh and why is it that people know theres problems in there religion but wont take a stand,why are religious people are such cowards to the truth.saying that though if i managed to get say jws banned from preaching i would be fulfilling bible prophecy mmm how cool lol
The best way to get people to observe some sort of religion...is to tell them they arent allowed too ;)
Lizard