Well it's hard to find out if they stepped down or were deleted. In the older days they used to say a slightly different announcement but not any more.
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ELDERS STEPPING DOWN
by ADJUSTMENTS inbetween two congregations that i know of four elders have stepped down in the last two months!
there is something really going on in this mandmade organization!
it's busting at the seams!.
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JW iPad app
by besty inwill speakers at the kingdom hall be permitted to read the nwt from an ipad?
from a smartphone?
using the new official app.... .
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I'd like to see a pic of it running on an iPad!
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new video on jw.org about world headquarters
by hoser inok so i watched the video and at about 07:25 the brother says that building 1.5 million square feet of construction in less than 4 years will not be done without jehovahs spirit.. .
is that such a big deal 1.5 million square feet in 4 years?.
merch mart in chicago took less than 2 years to build 4 million square feet.
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They love patting themselves on the back and standing in figurative cirle jerks with each other...
And to think I was in the first video they did on the Org... It's not shown anymore thank God!
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One year since my Judicial Committee with JW elders - Transcribed finally!
by RayPublisher inwell it took a loooong time to do, but i have typed up all 29,000+ words and made a transcript.
it has been a year and a month actually since i went in and let me them df me, and it feels great to be out of watchtower!!!!.
a picture of the first page is here:.
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Hmmmm well Aunt Connie you might be right, I could have been off on that. I don't know their actual birthdays I just guessed based on knowing them for several years.
@ Torn Apart - Thank you sis for all your help and support these last couple years!
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The Great Grandmother Tragedy - New video on YouTube
by RayPublisher infrom the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
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@ Cold Steel - I am not a mormon nor ever was. I am trying to do some research on this topic. Wiki says this:
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ("LDS Church"; see also Mormonism) practices excommunication as penalties for those who commit serious sins, i.e., actions that significantly impair the name or moral influence of the church or pose a threat to other members. The LDS Church also practices the lesser sanctions of private counsel and caution, informal probation, formal probation, and disfellowshipment.
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And PBS.org under the heading "Mormons" says this:
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What are the reasons for the church taking disciplinary action, or even excommunicating a member?
A 1990 article offered on the church's Web site lists the following reasons for convening a disciplinary council: "… abortion, transsexual operation, attempted murder, rape, forcible sexual abuse, intentionally inflicting serious physical injuries on others, adultery, fornication, homosexual relations, child abuse (sexual or physical), spouse abuse, deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, robbery, burglary, theft, sale of illegal drugs, fraud, perjury, or false swearing."
In addition, "disciplinary councils must be held in cases of murder, incest or apostasy." Apostasy is defined by the church's General Handbook of Instructions as teaching or following incorrect doctrines or "repeatedly act[ing] in clear, open and deliberate public opposition to the church or its leaders."
Excommunication is the most severe punishment that a church disciplinary council can hand down against a member. Disfellowshipment is a punishment just short of excommunication in which a member remains part of the church but may not enter the temple, hold leadership roles, receive sacraments or perform priestly duties. Lesser disciplinary actions are private caution and informal or formal probation.
Excommunication results in a member's name being removed from the church records and disfellowshipment; an excommunicated member may not wear temple undergarments or tithe to the church, and the member's temple sealings to spouse and children are suspended.
Excommunicated members may rejoin the church after repenting and undergoing re-baptism.
http://www.pbs.org/mormons/faqs/controversies.html
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And this on Yahoo answers:
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110715124759AAECJ7L)
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You can be put on probation, informally or formally. You can be disfellowshipped. You can be excommunicated. Sometimes it is announced from the pulpit, often not.
If you live in a rural Utah community, you can lose all your customers, business partners, friends and family, but that varies a lot.
(Ruth, there is now a process for sending in a letter to get your name removed from the rolls. It was instigated after some court cases. I remember the days before when we were told to request our own excommunication if we decided the church was a fraud.)----------------------
However another Mormon says almost the opposite:
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We are not supposed to shun anyone, though many ex-members say they are. Many people erroneously think that when a person is excommunicated they are no longer welcome at church. This is not true, they are not only welcome, but are encouraged to continue to attend church and participate in activities while they work to repent and regain membership. I have one friend who was excommunicated, had no desire to be re-baptized but very actively attended church.
We don't do anything to people who leave the church. If someone is my friend they will continue to be my friend whether they belong to the same religion as me or not.
More often than not, I notice that it's the people who leave the Church that are the ones who do the shunning, by indicating they don't want anything more to do with not only the Church but the members as well.-------------------------
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Grand Theft Auto V: The Manual
by glenster inas this is the biggest grand theft auto game to date, we literally couldnt fit everything into an old fashioned style printed booklet anymore so instead we have taken the tradition of the classic gta game manual into the digital era properly and have created for you a massive over-100-page free digital app for smartphones, tablets as well as desktops called grand theft auto v: the manual.
the official manual app has everything from essential and practical game con- trols, features and credits info to a tour through the activities and local shops and brands in the game and best yet, a special digital version of the game map to zoom in and explore with an interactive legend to browse neighbor- hoods and points of interest all over the entire world of los santos and blaine county.. http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/51371/the-free-gtav-ifruit-and-game-manual-companion-apps.html.
(disclaimer--i'm not familiar with these non-pc let's players):.
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Glenster you work for Rock Star Games? What is your connection/involvement with GTA5?
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Disfellowshipping
by Legacy ini wanted to know if anyone on here was df'd or know of any who were...why i ask is because many of the friends i have spoken to, say it's not done, just like that.
it's a process.
i have spoken to a re-instated sister and she said by the time they see you, you are pretty much out.
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@ Legacy - "I wanted to know if anyone on here was DF'd or know of any who were."
That's a good one... there are THOUSANDS of us on here that are DFed and proud of it!
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The Watchtower Bible and Tract Societys Publishing Buildings Caption in Brooklyn, New York, is STATING A LIE!!
by The Truth Shall Set Us FREE! inthe watchtower deceiving statement being: read the bible, the word of god, every day!
the watchtower bible and tract society states, with every fiber of its organization and publishing house, that you should not read the bible (not even everyday), without the holy bible additionally being accompanied by and explained by the watchtower bible and tract societys own publications.. the watchtower society and its witnesses claim that one can not understand the holy bible without the guidance of the watchtower publications.. the statement on the watchtower publishing building in brooklyn is therefore at best deceiving, lacking an under-title stating that one should not read the bible without the watchtowers additive writings.
thus the watchtower publishing house is deceiving (lying to) those who read this statement on their building... the watchtower publishing house is already familiar with explanatory subtitles to what they publicize, among others, the subtitles to the watchtower magazine.. the governing body of the watchtower witnesses (whom abuses g-ds holy name), excluded 4 out of the 7 members of the governing body in 1919, with the double vote by their president rutherford, when the watchtower magazines underscore shifted its wording from preaching the kingdom of jesus christ to preaching jehovahs kingdom.
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Welcome TTSSUF, interesting point.
Channel those powerful feelings in positive ways- looking forward to more posts from you!
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Sun Valley Jehovahs Witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boys
by truthseekeriam insun valley jehovahs witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boysby city news service.
posted: 09/12/13, 4:25 pm pdt |.
van nuys >> a man who was an usher at a kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses in sun valley pleaded no contest thursday to sex-related counts involving three boys he met there.. marcelo lozano, 34, of sun valley, pleaded no contest to two counts of continuous sexual abuse and one count of oral copulation of a person under 14.. he is facing 30 years in state prison when he is sentenced oct. 8 by van nuys superior court judge leslie dunn.. lozano is also expected to be ordered to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life following his release from prison.. .
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So sick...how many of these are going at one time it seems like more and more.
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The Great Grandmother Tragedy - New video on YouTube
by RayPublisher infrom the video description:.
a heartbreaking situation is played out every day for many grandparents that are former jehovah's witnesses or mormons: their precious grandchildren grow up without knowing them, and in some cases the little ones are told that their grandma or grandpa hates god and is serving satan and will be killed at armageddon.. .
why would such a terrible thing be done?
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Thank you so much for sharing Barbara.
I want to thank Daniel L. Hall again because he wrote the section in his book...all I did was read it on camera!