SMALL UPDATE:
Mike just told me said that his brother was never even a JW (I didn't know that) so that means that they only had ONE bogus hearsay "Witness" against him, his mother... how pathetic their so-called "facts" were...
this story is quite remarkable and no doubt many will appreciate it being told.
it is telling for several reasons; it highlights the fact that the watchtower organization can expel and marginalize anyone for literally anything if they are crossed.
they did that to ray franz back in the early 1980s and they recently have done it to these fine folks.. there are some six pieces of documentation in the account and it is in some ways a complicated mess, but it really boils down to a couple of active witnesses informing on someone to the elders.
SMALL UPDATE:
Mike just told me said that his brother was never even a JW (I didn't know that) so that means that they only had ONE bogus hearsay "Witness" against him, his mother... how pathetic their so-called "facts" were...
this story is quite remarkable and no doubt many will appreciate it being told.
it is telling for several reasons; it highlights the fact that the watchtower organization can expel and marginalize anyone for literally anything if they are crossed.
they did that to ray franz back in the early 1980s and they recently have done it to these fine folks.. there are some six pieces of documentation in the account and it is in some ways a complicated mess, but it really boils down to a couple of active witnesses informing on someone to the elders.
This story is quite remarkable and no doubt many will appreciate it being told. It is telling for several reasons; it highlights the fact that the Watchtower Organization can expel and marginalize anyone for literally anything if they are crossed. They did that to Ray Franz back in the early 1980s and they recently have done it to these fine folks.
There are some six pieces of documentation in the account and it is in some ways “a complicated mess”, but it really boils down to a couple of active Witnesses informing on someone to the elders. Once the accusations are made, the Kingdom Hall gossip-mill and then even the Watchtower machinery begins to turn. If you do not play ball then they can simply call three strikes and you will be put out.
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Read the article at www.jwstruggle.com/2013/10/how-to-disfellowship-two-people-with-zero-proof/
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Or jump straight to the YouTube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Vmm-dqsTjk
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I want to thank Mike and Kim for letting me tell their story! Their YouTube channel is located at:
it is painful to read.
check out the 1/15/14 wt.
i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.
Can't download it off of JW.org, it says, "Sorry, there was a problem retrieving the files. Try again later."
this just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.
http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.
see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.
Great sites LaFrancia I wish that the WT would reform but I doubt they ever will.
just recently i explained to my parents and my wife in detail, why i would accept blood or red, white blood cells, platelets or plasma in a medical emergency.
i showed them the inconsistencies and flaws about blood fractions and also the biblical reasons that show clearly that jehovah and jesus do not want a jehovah's witness to die because of that wrong doctrine.. my parents reacted surprised.
they are both about 50 years in the "truth.
Daniel they can DF you for literally ANYTHING they don't like. I have seen it happen my friend. There doesn't need to be anything in the KS10 Shepherd book.
If you even think something divergent from the WT you are already an apostate according to their definition.
finally got it up on youtube...the title right at the moment is just "grandma" but it's going to change to "grandma pleads with jehovah's witness granddaughter.".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.
we taped it about a week ago and my mom went into the hospital 3 days ago.
BTTT
I hope this goes viral.
go to this site and download.
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http://doyouknowttatt.weebly.com/.
That site is strange but hey who cares lol. Got it!
as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.
i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.
i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.
Reading CoC and Captive to a Concept was all she wrote...
But when I was a hardcore pio-sneer years ago I was given anti-JW literature a couple times and I actually turned my head and tore it up over a dumpster and never even looked at it...I wish I had!!!
for me it was the book!
it opened my eyes.
i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.
Threads like these will always come up from time to time since Ray's books are timeless for anyone escaping a cult, especially the Cult of WT.
Thanks TornApart for the OP.
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http://e-watchman.com/home/2012/11/11/who-really-is-the-faithful-and-discreet-slave.html.
Thanks Apocalypse for your work on cracking open the UN thing. (if that's indeed the case)
I personally don't think the video is very interesting or shows anything nefarious but that's just me.